Hyperreality

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can see why they'd be pissed about that.

The initial case was about the roadster likely having a 55 mile range on a track. Which was judged to be true.

Musk was pissed about Top Gear pointing it out, but it wasn't a lie.

The judge concluded that no reasonable viewer would equate range on a track, with range in normal daily driving.

I think many viewers got a different impression.

We didn't. That's a lie told by Tesla, who misrepresented what the case was actually about, and was parrotted by the tesla cult.

I watched it at the time. It was clearly a dramatisation to illustrate a point, and no viewer would have reasonably thought otherwise.

They correctly pointed out the range would be low on a track. They illustrated this by showing the car run out of battery. That's how entertainment shows work.

That's not just my opinion, but the opinion of the judge after Musk sued twice, and lost twice.

And you have to remember that UK libel laws notoriously favour the plaintiff:

English defamation law puts the burden of proof on the defendant, and does not require the plaintiff to prove falsehood. For that reason, it has been considered an impediment to free speech in much of the developed world. In many cases of libel tourism, plaintiffs sued in England to censor critical works when their home countries would reject the case outright. In the United States, the 2010 SPEECH Act makes foreign libel judgements unenforceable and unrecognisable by U.S. courts if they don't comply with U.S. protections for freedom of speech and due process, which was made largely in response to the English laws. The Defamation Act 2013 substantially reformed English defamation law in recognition of these concerns, by strengthening the criteria for a successful claim, mandating evidence of actual or probable harm, and enhancing the scope of existing defences for website operators, public interest, and privileged publications.

So much so, that the US introduced a law to make English judgements unenforceable and the law was eventually changed exactly because it was unbalanced.

Of course, if you go to tesla's website, you'll still find an article about the 55 mile range on a track being incorrect.

Unsurprisingly, that's a lie. As it turns out, they lied about the range of their cars then, and they're still doing it now:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/tesla-exaggerated-ev-range-so-much-that-drivers-thought-cars-were-broken/

I just don't get why people defend Tesla. No one would defend Hyundai if they lied about the Ioniq's range.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Free speech absolutist, my ass.

He sued Top Gear back in 2008 for suggesting the roadster had a low range on a track. Which it does.

And we now know tesla has been lying about the range of its cars all along.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Before 2014 and even after, a lot of Ukrainians were genuinely pro-Russian, loved Russian culture, watched Russian TV, ...

Hell, many of them had Russian family, Russian husbands, Russian grandparents, Russian friends, worked in Russia, went to Russia for their holidays. Now even Russian speaking Ukrainians who used to be pro-Russia, hate Russia with a passion.

It's astonishing how much good will they've managed to squander, so much so that families are literally not speaking to each other anymore, sons are literally fighting on opposite sides even.

Even if by some miracle they conquered Ukraine tomorrow, there's so much resentment that the insurrection, repression and terrorist attacks that would follow would last a hundred years and 1980s Northern Ireland sound like Disneyland.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

old.reddit.com

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Thatcher gets a lot of hate, but you can't deny she really helped the economy as PM, by discovering vast amounts of oil in the North Sea several years before she was elected.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 135 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Then when they're 15, they can rape them, but marry them when they get pregnant (because plenty of conservatives support that), they won't be able to abort their rapists child, and with a bit of luck the GOP will also make divorce harder (that's also something they want) so that their young wives will never be able to escape them and because conservatives will ensure marital rape continues to go unpunished.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Under the sea, under the sea.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 100 points 2 years ago

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

John F. Kennedy, 1962

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That kind of thing happens quite often when a celebrity no longer has an agent.

The family don't think to inform the press.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You can read about those charges here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Reubens#2002_pornography_arrest

They were eventually dropped.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Instead of saying “Valencia or Murcia”

Erm.... Valencia is the third largest city in Spain.

Here's a perfectly nice flat in the centre of Madrid, no renovation required, less than 100k, near a metro station, 15 minutes to the centre of Madrid:

https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/97370404/

I look forward to you finding me a similar flat in the middle of London.

why don't you go have a look where people there actually want to live, especially all the British “expats”, like say, Benidorm?

Because most Spanish people don't live in a small tourist trap, and don't want to live in a small tourist trap, just because it happens to be popular with foreigners.

Also, when building a rail network, it's unlikely that you'll have to build most of it in fucking Benidorm. LOL

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago

That's too much of a risk for the GOP. At that age they're more able to molest the interns again.

Best to replace Mitch with someone who is uncertain if lemonade will catch on and is skeptical of non-wooden dental implants.

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