Hegar

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[–] Hegar@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So if it's just a tankie thing why are you accusing broader leftists of it?

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I've seen 2 memes complaining about this and no examples of it. I'm perfectly willing to believe that it has happened - if there's a crazy thought, someone will spout it online.

But it doesn't seem either widespread or representative of the actual beliefs of real humans in the world.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That's just not true though.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That would be the structural issue. The candidate who won the election by a light but comfortable margin (48 v 46) didn't win power.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm guessing it was that, which won an IgNobel prize like a decade ago.

If you've ever worked in a call center, this kind of thing happens from time to time. After a couple times you learn to ignore it and push through.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

throwing muck

You seem to feel like you're being attacked by a description of how some people suffer. It doesn't imply that others don't.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You see your hardships, can't look past the color of your skin, and project.

I don't see how my 'hardships' as a middle class white australian-american who moved to the US come into it. I'm describing how I observe the US to work.

Yes, rich people are more likely to crowdfund their rich friends.

White people are just more likely to be successful in their crowdfunding, even when poor.

I'm not arguing that there are no poor white people, that's silly. My wife's dad's grew up shoeless and white in rural illinois. The existence of poor white people doesn't disprove the fact non white people are a greater target for deliberate impoverishment.

I'm not deaf to class-based analysis. But this is the US. You just can't talk about class without also talking about how racialized poverty is in most of the country. Crowdfunding is one of the many facits of our society that very clearly reflects that.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Possibly timing played a role, sure. But both those candidates are men, so it could just be more proof of her point.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Why do you make this a white vs not white issue?

Because that's what the intention is.

Republicans (post civil rights, Dixiecrats before that) specifically target non-white communities with laws designed to hurt them. They can't be as explicit about it as they once were, so they have to find proxy targets. Instead of just jailing blacks, we'll over-enforce drug laws in certain communities. Instead of saying we're trying to starve black families, we'll use 'welfare mothers' as a proxy. The goal is still the same as it was for all of US history - to win votes from whites by promising to take from non-whites. School vouchers. Stop and frisk. Zero tolerance approaches. Gang enforcement units.

But using proxies instead of specifically targeting leads to some collateral emiseration. Luckily, white communities have vastly more intergenerational and communal wealth, so those crafting the laws know that white communities will be more resilient to the kind of damage they intend to inflict.

not a problem with whites, it's a problem with the rich.

Crowdfunding success is heavily racialized. It strongly favours people with more wealth in their extended community or identity group. Poverty is incredibly racialized in the US, especially at the communal rather than individual level.

I certainly agree that rich people enjoy watching all the poors suffer, but here in the US there's still a large demographic beyond just the rich that feel safer when black and brown people are disproportionately targeted for misery.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

35000+ tragic mistakes and counting.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Crowdfunding campaigns like this are a great way for white communities to avoid the consequences of laws that were mostly designed to emiserate non-white americans.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It looks like it's supposed to be more greek, since the romans weren't known for fighting naked, whereas we think 'greek' and we think shirtless. Also romans weren't involved in egypt in any serious way till much later. Whereas the 'sea peoples' seem to come from roughly the sphere of mycenean influence, even if they don't all seem 'greek'.

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