Hawanja

This is simply not true. Detention centers under Obama are a world apart from the concentration camps under Trump. Trump is making camps with Alligator moats. He's deporting people to countries they don't come from. He's sending them to prisons in El Salvador. Did Obama do those things also? No, he did not. Please cut the "both sides" crap because I have zero patience for this bullshit.

Every fucking day some smug asshole has to come and complain and whine and try and redirect people’s frustration towards infighting instead of against the fascists.

That's the point - these people chose to not fight against the fascists last November. Now we're all paying the price for it. Maybe after four years of Trump you people will finally learn how precious and fragile a thing your enfranchisement actually is.

If Harris had won it is highly plausible she would have endorsed Cuomo leading to Zohran’s loss.

We would also not have immigrants in concentration camps. So you know, it's a trade off.

Who's going to fight in your violent revolution? You? We couldn't even get all the people who voted for Biden to Vote for Kamala. Right now a large portion of African Americans are refusing to join the protest movement against encroaching fascism because Trump is somehow a "white people problem." How do you think a revolutionary army or even an insurrection of sufficient strength to challenge the United States Government would ever take hold when there is zero solidarity among the left? We can't even get people to vote in their own interest, let alone support a violent revolution. This is pure fantasy.

A newly elected government that is for neutrality and against joining NATO, while not being a pawn of the Western regimes, would greatly help the Ukrainian workers.

How is being a pawn of Putin any better than being a pawn of the west? We're talking about the lives and income of "workers" here. Seems to me the average worker in Ukraine would have way more opportunity if Ukraine is aligned with the west than with Putin.

Diplomacy and negotiations would be required, as well as not wanting to join NATO and staying neutral.

You say that like it's never been tried before. Tell me, what should Ukraine give up in order to obtain peace? Because Russia's terms for peace are essentially "Surrender."

Also why exactly would Ukraine not want to join NATO, especially since they've been invaded? Seems to me this is like telling someone you've threatened to kill that they're not allowed to call the police. Who in their right mind would agree to that?

The CIA and US military had been in Ukraine before 2014, as well as other Western agencies and military.

Please tell me how they are making money. The question was "Which intelligence agencies and politicians are making money from the war?" Please tell me how, exactly, the CIA is "making money" and which politician is "making money," i.e war profiteering, because that is your actual claim.

The military-industrial complex, they supply the weapons and bombs, and the land is flattened.

So your contention then is that corporations in "the west" are artificially extending the war by supplying Ukraine, specifically so they can profit from it, is that correct? Just want to be sure I'm not misunderstanding.

If that is right, then what, exactly, is your solution for Ukraine, which is not surrendering? Please assume for this discussion that surrender is not an option.

The Ukrainian government are willing pawns of the West; profit is the goal of these forever wars.

How exactly does this answer the questions "Do you think Ukraine should surrender? Would more of their workers be better off under Putin?"

Peace has always been an option, since 2022 and before, but Western intelligence organizations and politicians continue to prolong the mass murder of the working class, again for quarterly profits.

How would Ukraine obtain this peace, without surrendering? Which intelligence agencies and politicians are making money from the war? That's what you mean by "again for quarterly profits," correct?

I'd say we should throw rotten eggs and tomatoes, but we won't be able to afford that.

Kinda sounds like "cruel and unusual punishment" to me.

See what they don't get is that inflation only happens when ordinary people suddenly get money. That's why trillions in quantitative easing didn't cause inflation, because all that money went to the banks and corporations (i.e. the rich people.) Suddenly wages go up for the first time in decades and inflation goes wild. Go figure.

I mean, good. Because F libertarians.

I am good with that.