HCSOThrowaway

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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

“Loose cannons” are never good as cops. No matter how much you delude yourself they’re completely moral and even if that were 100% true they wouldn’t be good cops. Cops aren’t justice. They’re law enforcement.

A reminder that we're talking about choosing between lesser evils here. Would you rather an immoral by-the-book Auror/cop in league with Voldemort/Hitler or a moral loose cannon like Harry?

Someone applying their own morality all the time instead of laws should never ever be a cop. That’s why ACAB.

How do you feel about ICE arresting people for immigration offenses?

How do you feel about the DEA prosecuting people for cannabis?

There's nuance here, and you're pretending there isn't.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Of course not. That's why I said "To the best of my recollection the last I’ve seen bits of traffic data here and there, [...]"

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

To moderators. I want to say even to regular users if your comment/post gets enough traction on New Reddit, i.e. hundreds or thousands of views.

Other, similar websites also show such data to those in privileged positions as well. If they're pretty sure you're not a bot, they give it freely. Whatever tier above "average user" and especially "a person interested in growing the website out of self-interest" a given website has, it'll probably be available. I'm sure you can imagine a half dozen that are on the money.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

To the best of my recollection the last I've seen bits of traffic data here and there, it's large, but not large in comparison to the US and India.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, but that argument also works against you:

Why become a cop? He has other interests than being a cop.

is equal to

Why not become a cop? He's interested in being a cop.

Surely you know cops don't eat sleep and breathe law enforcement too, right? As in they have other hobbies and interests? That goes for every job; a tailor has hobbies other than tailoring, and a taxi driver has other interests than driving.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

True, Harry's (culture) is not morally perfect, and his morality is tainted by the writer's perspective. I'm going with broad strokes here, and "he's not perfect," does not disqualify him for law enforcement IMO.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

But like the earlier dude said Harry hasn’t even got an understanding of the wider world. He would be much better at being a professor, because it also includes studying instead of just enforcing the rules.

This section is refuted by: He's 18, so "Duh" and "Nah," respectively.

Even if you imagine a perfect cop, he wouldn’t be acting like Harry. Harry constantly breaks some rules or laws. Not what cops should be doing.

A fair point, but essentially the opposite of what looks like most people's assertion about Harry becoming a cop, i.e. "He's good so he should not be a cop," and/or, "If some/most/all cops are bad, no one should become a cop." I find both of those asinine takes, hence my refuting them above.

TL;DR: Harry would be morally upstanding and a loose cannon (assuming he doesn't mature past 18), therefore a "good" cop, but not a "great" cop, and assuming his world is anything like ours, should absolutely be a cop to offset the bad.

Imagine if the magical world was (for this analogy) the US. Some who grew up in another country and hasn’t even lived in the US, just went to a mostly American school, wants to be an American cop? Even when they go through a necessary training (and we know the wizarding world isn’t big on credentials or experience) to become a cop, he’d still have very little understanding of the actual law with just some weeks of training, and wouldn’t have grown up hearing about the constitution of the US let alone all the amendments to it.

Yes, immigrant cops have a disadvantage to face, but I disagree in your analogy and its application to Harry that it means they're disqualified from the position; that's a training issue that is far from impossible.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Fair enough, it was an implication that you might not have intended. Add to it that 99% of Lemmites believe "ACAB," and you can imagine why I made that conclusion.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Here's my Amateur Coder waving the Wand of Coding idea:

What if we had a FOSS browser extension that scraped Reddit passively, uploading everything you see as you browse (except PII like your username and PMs and such) via bot to Lemmy (on a delay so they can't pinpoint your identity as easily?)

I can't be the only one who splits their time between Lemmy and Reddit, and would much rather participate here than there, but there's much less to comment on here.

My favorite subreddit (/r/tampa) recently perma-banned me for extremely petty reasons, but /c/tampa is a ghost town.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Reddit would probably sooner just lop off their entire EU userbase than comply.

No offense to Europeans because I love y'all, but you are a drop in the bucket for global (English) internet usage.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

On a long enough timeline, every Lemmy thread eventually becomes one of the following:

  1. ACAB

  2. Trump bad

  3. FOSS good

  4. Reddit bad

  5. Socialism (generally, via vanguard party) good

  6. Tankies (i.e. #5) bad

Not that I disagree with most of the above, but we need some normies in here to balance things out, so invite them and don't demonize them. That's made trickier by Reddit banning people for talking about the Fediverse/Lemmy, so you have to be clever about it.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I really don't know if what you state is accurate because I don't recall from reading the books or watching the movies, so I can't really comment on your prediction, and honestly we're so far off-topic I'm barely interested in developing an opinion on it.

I just generally disagree with "Fred and George were better contributors to the resistance than the Trio," for reasons stated above.

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