Greenleaf

I started using Telegram a couple months ago and I was like a boomer who just found Facebook, I binged hard for a while.

The following is a comment left by user Emma under the Naked Capitalism story about Türkiye cutting off trade to Israel. Sharing it because it makes me hopeful, and I think we all appreciate having some hope:

I will say that I don’t think there’s going to be a real day after for Israel or the West, even if they ethnically cleanse all of Gaza or put it under some sort of PA led Vichy regime.

Ilan Pappe said that he thought the next 12 to 24 months will be very hard, but then Israel will break from its internal contradictions. People will leave, the struggles in the West Bank and with Hezbollah will intensify, and there won’t be a sustainable Jewish entity on the other end.

The external factors will also be very harsh on Israel. Once Russia is done in Ukraine, it and China will look to help Syria recover its territory and economy. Iran and China will also want to bring Iraq fully into the BRICS system and out of American domination. The salvo from this new Bahraini resistance organization suggests that Iran’s Axis of Resistance is spreading into places ruled by Western placed emirs and kings. The actual positions of ISIS and other regional players has been unveiled by their actions. All in all, an Israel that is now clearly intolerable to basically all Arabs is not going to last in a sea of Arabs.

Yes there are the nukes and the Samson option, but I don’t think Israelis have it in them to die for the land. Look how quickly the fanatical settlers in the north and around the Gaza envelop abandoned their homes. Look at how quickly the ultra orthodox deeply implicated in pogroms in the West Bank and lies of Zaka, threatened to leave the country if they’re called up for conscription. Look at the desertions of reservists in the latest call ups.

Would any of these people, who can still have comfortable lives in the Levant or in the West, really give up their lives for a land that they’re only willing to kill for (and in many cases, brainwash the young into killing for them)?

Especially now that their finally waking up somewhat from their October 7 freakout and are confronting the fact that Mass Hannibal was likely responsible for the majority of civilian deaths, and that their ‘most moral army in the world’ shot 3 white flag waving defenseless hostages in cold blood.

The Afrikaans didn’t use their nukes, even though their ties to the land go back centuries and their ancestors did die in large numbers in the Boer War. So while the chances of the Israelis using nukes is not zero, I hope and think its quite unlikely

Picture from just the other day, I don’t recall if it’s Mississippi or Alabama doesn’t really matter ig

lol the smooth brained chuds in the comments think Joe Biden is behind it because reasons.

Ok fine, how do you “protest” Darfur, then? What are the objectives? These people act like protesting is just “I am against this thing” and not something you do to take specific actions happen. Like the campus protests are seeking their universities take specific action (divestment). Ok fine, if any companies are profiting off the situation in Darfur, they can be divested too, whatever. It’s just a bad faith deflection tactic.

supporting Russia’s annexation of Crimea

Crimeans - who are overwhelming of Russian extraction / Russian-speaking, voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia. Given how Ukraine killed 14,000 people in eastern Ukraine in the ensuing years, it was objectively the right decision.

opposing Hong Kong’s 2019 pro-democracy protests

lol based, it wasn’t pro-democracy it was pro “how dare the CPC pass laws that let them go after murderers”

denying that [SA] was used as a weapon of war on October 7

You know who else denies it? The famously Marxist-Leninist organization The United Nations, who said Israel has not provided any evidence that any of that happened.

supporting Bashar Al-Assad in his bloody civil war

Uh oh, you all are about to be . Also PSL didn’t even support Assad, they just said the US shouldn’t intervene. No more than I supported Saddam when I said the US shouldn’t invade Iraq, jfc

flyering in favor of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program

Oh no, another nation wants to do what it has to to defend itself, quelle horreur. Probably not anymore because they no longer trust the US but for years DPRK has offered to get rid of their nukes for very reasonable requests like removing all US troops from the Korean Peninsula or dropping sanctions, and the US has always said no. If you don’t want the DPRK to have nukes, blame the only country to ever drop nukes on actual people.

I really think Democrat politicians are just rage quitting on the youth vote now. Like, for decades, these ghouls have taken the youth vote for granted. Young people vote for Democrats. They can’t conceive of a world where they don’t have the youth vote. Now since Oct 7, they are seeing just how unpopular they are with young voters. I think there’s a material reason why they aren’t trying to woo back the youth vote - to do so would alienate AIPAC and other donors - but I also think there’s an emotional angle. They’ve taken the youth vote for granted for so long, they actually resent us making any demands of them. Like, how dare we ask them to do things, we’ve never asked for that before. No different than when black voters demand action, too. If the “locked down” groups start demanding things, then they can’t focus on the “up for grabs” white suburban middle class voters, and the whole grift just sorta falls apart.

I have the 1922-1945 one

I have seen many Palestinian people talk about how their plight makes them feel hopeless. On top of all the horrible things done to them by the Zionist entity (or for Palestinians living in places like Lebanon or Syria, the local situation can also be very unwelcoming), it’s easy to feel like they are suffering alone and no one else in the world cares about them. It keeps them feeling hopeless.

These campus protests - along with the earlier solidarity protests around the world and Aaron Bushnell - get such a warm reception from Palestinians and the Resistance is because it shows them that someone cares and they are not alone. Don’t underestimate how much that can mean to someone and how powerful hope is.

I know it’s easy to be jaded about what actual impact the protests will have. But if the people who you advocate for are telling you to go on, you go on, goddammit. Every step forward is a step forward.

They just say "we are only targeting Hamas, we are not targeting innocent people" and no one in western media challenges them on that or even follows up with another question.

A book I read many years ago is The Nazi Seizure of Power by William Sheridan. It’s a day by day account of one small town in Germany, and how Nazis slowly took it over. It was a pretty good read, I may need to go back and read it again soon.