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I expect that with most of them, it's a way to honor the accomplishments of their forebears, which I think is fair enough or at least not the same as "hubris". You can make a left-critique of the rather Confucian ancestor veneration going on here, but that's something else entirely.

The laws of a depraved society should never be confused with morality or treated as the rules of engagement, "maverick"

First objection. Why would the people in power change the voting system that got them in power? Well, the spoiler effect has cost both Dems & Reps a major election before. Getting rid of that glitch would be a win-win for major and minor parties!

This inference is completely defective. Of course a system has a cost, but the cost to a major party of changing to rcv is in many cases to completely hold decades-long strangleholds they previously had. It's like saying, uh, "Right now Hugh cooks his food, but that sometimes results in him burning himself, so of course he'd be glad to sign on to eating food raw!"

No it is democratic, which the KPD at this point was no longer. They were working on setting up a Stalinist dictatorship and no longer a council democracy.

I was going to let it go, but this really bugs me. What are you even talking about here?

This does not read to me as a response

There's no evidence Trump will be worse on Palestine than the Dems. The idea that Trump is worse than any future frontrunner is myopic alarmism, you'll be whipped into a new frenzy just the same with most or perhaps all future candidates (some of whom will be substantially worse). Furthermore, most people live in states where their vote doesn't have any impact on the winner of the election, sothem voting blue only serves to legitimate the popular mandate of the genocidal dems. I don't know, this is all very obvious but it's like my 50th time saying it in this stupid thread.

You say we're on the same side, but your ideology is one of supporting perpetrators into perpetuity because the tautology you've been talked into has no off-ramp, no point in the future where you stop taking "emergency" "temporary" "provisional" "compromises" to "reduce harm" and instead make actual positive progress. There will always be a new election, there will always be a new Republican platform that declares an interest in doing heinous shit, and very frequently there will be more sincere fascists than Trump, like if Tom Cotton ever runs, and there will never be some demon democrat you won't vote for because they are running against someone who is 1% more reactionary, and that thereby necessitates everyone giving them unconditional support.

It's an unserious strategy based on the panicked mindset of people who are stuck in an abusive relationship with liberal media.

Vote third party, put actual pressure on the Dems to make concessions. If they have your vote no matter what, they have no reason to listen to you.

Entryism doesn't work, putting yourself under the discipline of a party apparatus that runs contrary to your goals means you either get extricated or you conform.

The dems don't give a shit about primary results. Bernie's relative strength in the primary meant nothing to Biden and understandably so, because why should he give a shit when Bernie endorses him and the bulk of the progressives are so whipped they vote for him anyway?

Alright, think beyond one election cycle without being cowed by ridiculous alarmism. The status quo is great for Republicans, they'll continue to do their christo-fascist thing, but the idea that they'll just overturn elections is ridiculous and not founded in anything but an offhand comment Trump made that gets interpreted hysterically (what he probably meant was that, if elected, he would hit the term limit and he doesn't give a shit about whoever the next Republican is). If Trump was really passionate about being an autocrat, the Capitol riot would have been much more than the clown show it turned out as.

What edge could a progressive candidate possibly have electorally if the so-called progressives are so whipped that they'll support literally anyone who isn't nominally a Republican? You need to think beyond one election cycle.

When did I ever say I would do that? I am plainly not advocating for such a thing.

Biden is already supplying arms and Harris has vowed to do the same and gone on endlessly about Israel's "right to defend itself" and how anti-genocide protesters are pro terrorism and so on. I'm not saying Trump won't fully support Israel, I'm saying there is no light between that and the Biden-Harris position.