GarbageShoot

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's modernist, and actually tied quite strongly to the printing press.

I'm confused, the biblical canon was established in the late 300s, over a thousand years before modernism or the printing press.

I also think that dogma is important to organized religion, but that there are lots of things commonly thought of as religion that are less dogmatic, like pre-Imperial Shintoism. tbh I am not that familiar with Imperial Shintoism either, but what little I have heard about it strongly suggests being oriented around the central authority of the state to decide its doctrines. Basically, what I am saying is "folk religion is also religion"

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What I don't like that much about Mao is this propaganda reducation camps or something like that.

Would you prefer prisoners simply be tortured or left to rot like they are in nearly every other prison system around the world?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Deng was a right-deviationist at least as much as Mao was a left-deviationist, and he is given too much credit for "solving" an economic problem that was essentially invented by liberal accountants who didn't understand the economy under Mao. It is also true that he protected China's national sovereignty and that much of the damage he did was able to be undone in subsequent decades while the useful elements were preserved.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We're broadly on the same side, but I think you're in error on a number of levels in the second paragraph. Most religions are much older than the "rise of the modern capitalist state" and many indigenous religions as-received existed within the context of a state (whether an empire or the smaller national formations that are sometimes called "tribes").

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

As many indigenous folks have argued (for example, deloria jr. in "Same old Rock" in Marxism and Native Americans) Marxism is itself a religion that demands taking a lot on faith (revolutionary optimism is faith; belief in revolution is faith; belief in an eventual better world in the future? Faith.

If Marxism is not a science, it is merely an affectation that has no particular reason to be held as better or worse than other "lenses" of analysis like Lacan or whatever. The most basic point of "scientific socialism" is that it is attempting to be a science, and to discard that is to discard the heart and be left with a corpse.

https://archive.org/details/075_Marxism_as_a_Science_FINAL.lite

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I think that lumping Christians in with neo-post-neo-pagan twitter heliophiles is a much greater insult to Christians than making fun of heliophiles is. I respect Christians on the basis of their cultural heritage, this fucker is just making shit up and speaking grandiosely about it, while also trying to sell shit.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But have you considered spices? I know there's a penalty for them having once been animate, but . . .

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

There's also the much smaller ball of rock that deeply affects many aspects of life but doesn't give you cancer, there is the air that permeates everything the vast majority of humans interact with (and we can only survive for minutes without), there is the ocean from which we came, get food, and travel on, and also just the planet itself or the earthy bits specifically, which are the literal foundation of all human existence (fuck seasteading). I'm just saying you have other choices that are p valid.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think the sun is up there, but there's also something to be said for worshipping the Earth or the air, as well as the ocean and/or the moon if you live on a coast or island or something. The cool thing about those four is that none of them reliably cause cancer like the sun does unless you go digging for radioactive elements or whatever.

The Sun is probably what most resembles the Abrahamic God (complete with not being able to look at its face), but I think the other options more resemble other religious ethea, plus the moon sometimes eclipses the sun, which means it's way less scary to worship the moon (lunar eclipses are whatever).

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Hence why we should let him cook

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

This isn't panpsychism, this is at most animism, theoretically just sun worship, but in all probability just some strain of niche consumer-lifestyle bullshit.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

At least it's not a FLAC ATTAC

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