GarbageShoot

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

I've seen a ton of, uh, reappropriations already, but they at least are all using the willie design

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The DPRK is in an unusual and tenuous position, and there is very little that can be usefully gained from speculation that doesn't involve considering that. At the same time as trying to develop a [dictatorship of the proletariat/highly unusual set of political economic arrangements], they bear constant acts of sabotage from the South and the US that are at times extraordinarily depraved, have endured sanctions for decades, and suffered from regional poverty since long before the WPK took over, all the more so after the US bombed them back into the stone age.

Given this context, and probably also the Otto Warmbier incident, we can begin to understand why they would be vigilant -- some would say hypervigilant -- towards various security issues, and don't want some jackass tourist going rogue and causing an international incident. Since they never made a ton of money from tourism -- especially discounting Chinese tourism -- sacrificing some level of profitability to their tourism industry to keep tourists on a short leash and prevent incidents isn't so inexplicable.

Complete aside, what nationality is your tourist friend? I assume not American because -- due to US passport law -- it is very difficult for a US citizen to gain access to the DPRK since the Warmbier incident.

Of course the DPRK is strange, even its most ardent supporters would tell you so, but the fact of the matter is that what westerners think about the DPRK isn't "The DPRK is weird", it's "This is a completely backwards place with absurd laws and propaganda which considers human life worthless," right? "State propaganda says the Kims don't shit and Kim Il-Sung invented the hamburger. Kim Jong-Un had his uncle eaten alive by dogs for being rude to him. The rats eat the kids and the kids eat the rats." etc. My biggest point of emphasis is that every one of those stories, which have agglomerated together to create the hazy cultural consensus that I mentioned, is unambiguously false and you have very little left that you've ever actually seen about the DPRK if you subtract all of that.

Here are some things to look at if you like. Obviously I would not tell you to take anything uncritically and I have my own issues with things here and there. I'd be happy to discuss any of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V4Hnl7J9H4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBqeC8ihsO8

And of course, you can actually look at statements that they put out:

http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/5a9ffe6e4d6704ac1838b14785365295.kcmsf

Or the fact that the Korea-watching industry is just completely shameless about putting out the most harebrained nonsense with very little pushback (including things that don't make it to the headlines), which really does not lend credibility to the idea of serious-minded criticism of the DPRK having any strong presence in anglophone media and therefore anglophone culture. On this point, because it is a "death by a thousand cuts" situation, it's really just a question of how many examples you want.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm sure the corporate suits at Costco writing "We're not anti-union, but . . . " are being perfectly genuine.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I completely missed this comment, sorry.

Yeah, they are definitely restrictive with tourists, but that's not the same as how citizens live. Your story sounds more extreme than others I have seen (where the general consensus is more generically that the visit was "on rails"), but I'm not about to call your buddy a liar. Citizens, it probably won't surprise you to know, are not moved around in windowless vans (beyond the case of arrest, where I imagine they might be since that would be pretty normal for most countries).

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (13 children)

I'm sure you aren't, I'm just saying that the central body of the org was compromised over a half-century ago by the HUAC and friends

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm no authority on the topic, but if someone asked me which would leave me "alienated" between being out in the snow being forced to warm myself with a fucking satellite dish vs being inside, I'd consider it the former without hesitation.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

I think there are some kinds that can at least get to a height that looks like space, though looking it up I see lots of carefully worded claims about "the edge of space" and sometimes the stratosphere.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's unimportant, but this idiot doesn't know how to write headlines. As-written, it suggests that the evidence for the story was provided by a North Korean Leader about a person that leader referred to as 'Kim Jong Un,' despite the fact that it is surely not trying to claim the former or cast doubt on the name of the latter.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

"Post-Open Source"

Overly-teleological modernist framing has hopelessly fucked up tech discourse. Too much declaring things the future and hoping people will just believe you.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He got where he did by being the most shameless panderer to ever walk the Earth, so he could probably do a good job of getting along with the average person

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What do you mean "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"?!

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (16 children)

They're fucking feds, I tell you.

I was wondering why they were specifically interested in CPUSA, and this clears it up. Good luck in your fight against them anyway.

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