GarbageShoot

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Dictionaries do not exhaustively discuss topics and the scope of meanings of terms, they give you a colloquially-oriented summary of what they mean to help you, for example, parse a conversation that uses the word in passing.

John Locke being a liberal isn't an "alternative fact", you're just a troglodyte.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Take it up with oxford

My point is that you are misusing the dictionary as a replacement for actually knowing about a subject. People still call John Locke a liberal, and they do it because fields have definitions that aren't colloquial.

This discussion is about the current meaning of Liberalism in today's political context.

Look anywhere outside of America and it readily refers to sniveling market-fetishists. In America it only implicitly does because everyone is a market fetishist.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it though?

Yes, it is responsible for those things, like when we say smoking is associated with higher risk of lung cancer.

In the common consciousness?

Moving the goalposts. Good job observing that liberal propaganda takes credit for good things and not for bad things.

Though outside of America, you get a much more accurate view of the term because liberal means "sniveling, centrist, market-fetishist" in most other countries.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (23 children)

If one is trying to define liberalism against feudalism, that definition is fine, but it's just redditor sophomorism to act like a dictionary is a replacement for an actual historical or academic definition of a political tendency.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Democracy is (in part) when you tell the fascists to eat shit, yes.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

It's basically just "classical liberalism and neoliberalism", and whether politically illiterate Americans use that word that way doesn't matter very much from an analytical standpoint, because in political science, history, philosophy, and even just popular discourse in most other countries, the term "liberal" mainly has that meaning.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Along with it's deep flaws, Liberalism is also associated with things like the abolition of slavery . . .

Liberalism is also associated with the invention and virtually entire existence of chattel slavery along with the exporting of the criminalization of queer people to cultures that did not feature such things.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

This could work really well for Mob Psycho

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Between Russia, Iran, and Ukraine, only two still have elections, and yet the one without is the one that isn't a dictatorship?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Patelli: The UN says "the vast majority" of protestors were peaceful

Piranelli, seconds later: According to the UN, the protestors were not mostly peaceful

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Her explanation -- which I believe since she explicitly said that the genocide happened subsequently -- is that she didn't approve of the recognition of a genocide being used as a political football. She's a garbage liberal, but I don't think she was wrong there specifically.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

You reminded me that there's been a lot less waifu art lately, which I appreciate.

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