GarbageShoot

It's a small mercy that the libs didn't pick "agent orange" as a Trump nickname

Since I know we have some comrades in the posting trenches, I figured out a good way of explaining it to them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7Ol0gz11k

This was a pretty popular clip, they might have seen it. Pierce Morgan is treating this communist as an Obama-supporter because he is so brain-rotted that anyone criticizing Trump must have Obama as their sacred cow, completely failing to understand that there is discourse outside of that limited political spectrum. They are doing exactly the same thing with the Dems.

Bones occasionally had moments where the show fully diverted into being a car commercial, but it was more in the script than the camera work

Dang doping harms long-term health of athletes? Can we look at all the things that also harm to long-term health of athletes? Like the list of things that wreck athletes bodies is extremely long and PEDs at least when it comes to strength sport is minimal there's a ton of other things that do way more harm which you'd know if you were into strength sports but you aren't you don't care about sports and that's fine but then don't talk again no investigation no right to speak. Why is everyone extremely concerned about an athletes health when it comes to PEDs but no for example body weight or even practices of making weight, why do you if we come to it care about PEDs but not for example the extremely short time to recovery in sports like basketball after injuries that then have long term effects on those athletes? Again it's all vibes and you picked it up because some yanks were mad that their coked up athletes lost against soviet athletes that were using early steroids. And don't get me started on the transphobia that came with all this bullshit.

"Why aren't you talking about all these other things that aren't the subject of the conversation!?!?" Because the subject is PEDs, come on. In other threads I've agreed, say, that American football should either be wildly revised or banned because the current practice is sadistic, but we aren't talking about football here! I also agree that making weight represents serious problems, but they are difficult structural problems with how divisions work and not the relatively simple problem of having someone piss and testing it for evidence.

As someone with some personal experience in it, I have mixed opinions on martial arts (pun not intended), but I figure there at least getting the shit beat out of you is sort of what the sport fundamentally is -- and therefore plainly what you're signing up for -- instead of being a side-effect. idk, I'm biased, so even here I usually just read along without saying anything.

I do indeed not give a shit about lifting, but that's why I didn't talk about it.

fucking reddit tier take seriously, I guess it's better than doing a petersonian 'women wearing blush is like cum' but fucking do better

"I don't know how to contradict this, so I'll just free-associate an insult". There is no game without rules.

You know who is always being upset about people 'cheating' by taking PEDs? Fucking yanks that go on why some no name us oly weightlifter can't win because sterons when he can't even put up respectable numbers but it's not because the us sucks no it's because of the evil SEE SEE PEE and the sneaky rus

My only opinion on weightlifting is that it's cool that people from the DPRK seem to do so well in it. Again, you seem to be dragging in a bunch of tangential bugbears to have a tantrum about, but I'd appreciate if you didn't put that all on me.

It probably doesn't help how car brands notoriously pay for in-movie product placement

What you are saying there does not contradict what I said. Obviously existing sports stand on top of capitalist bullshit, but doping presents yet another level, and again one that significantly harms the long-term health of athletes (and obviously the capitalists barely care about that -- only to use retired athletes as mascots at best -- but we should care).

Muh rules based sports order

Alright, I'll just bring a nine to a basketball game and tell the other team to surrender. By some metrics, I'm now a better player than Lebron. You can't have games without rules, games are essentially an expression of players interacting with each other in an environment mediated by the rules. Trying to equate this to, what? imperial hegemony? is anarcho-bedtime-ism.

Obviously the rules should be interrogated and changed as deemed appropriate, but when you play a game, you're agreeing to abide by the rules of the game for that game. Being upset that someone cheated a game is a totally reasonable reaction.

I'm begging you to spend a single extra minute thinking about this.

It's just not fair that certain people get genetic advantages, so if you want to make up for not being tall or having a certain body build, go for it.

If doping is allowed, then it's not a plucky little guy compensating for genetic disadvantages against people with optimal builds who are clean, it's the little guy now needing to compete with guys who both have good builds and are also doping, because doping would effectively become mandatory to be competitive. The upstart doesn't get any leveling tool, just another thing he needs to do, this one at the expense of his long term health.

capitalist bullshit

If anything is capitalist bullshit, it would be needing to, on top of everything else, constantly dope to the limit of your health and have a fucking medical team monitor you to optimize your intake and counterbalance complications as they arise.

"it's unfair whaaaa"

Yes, breaking the rules is unfair.

VOTE THEM OUT

Can I persuade you to actually read Luxemburg, instead of just embodying the West German co-opting of her? Specifically, I'm thinking of Sozialreform oder Revolution?

I don't think it's especially productive to kill people when imprisoning them is easy, as it would be with the resources in America, but I don't see why you are clutching your pearls this hard at a butcher of countless thousands being killed.

Neoliberals yet again refusing to consider someone could disagree with them and still be sane, instead resorting to calling all opposition crazy or paid actors.

And everyone shouldn't have to hold up the conversation to preemptively explain what the word means to those who don't already know

Well, if you know that the person doesn't know, giving definitions can be a helpful way of setting up your argument, but obviously these lemmitor assholes are just wasting your time.

You could use "corporatism" which has kind of taken over that definition in common language

No one says "corporatism" in the real world. The better suggestion for an "alternative" is to just say "capitalism", because that's accurate enough.