Framptonian

They don't! And that's why I made no such statement!

I repeat what I stated in response to somebody else:

I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty. I simply wonder where Europeans would flee to, if there were a war that engulfs all of Europe.

Alas, since you seem to be more interested in other discussions: Saying people don’t flee from war to Europe seems highly deceitful in itself. I just looked at the statistics from Germany (which brought me to my question): By mid-2024, there were roughly 3.5 Million refugees in Germany. Over one million of them were from Ukraine. For the whole of the EU, there appear to be almost 7 million refugees from war-torn areas and a total of 13 million refugees in total (includes internally displaced people), and 1.7 million asylum applicants. Those appear to be official numbers and not right-wing talking points. I suppose in your mind, that means that people don’t flee to Europe?

https://www.unhcr.org/europe/europe-figures-glance-2023

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zahl-gefluechtete-deutschland-100.html

I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty. I simply wonder where Europeans would flee to, if there were a war that engulfs all of Europe.

Alas, since you seem to be more interested in other discussions: Saying people don't flee from war to Europe seems highly deceitful in itself. I just looked at the statistics from Germany (which brought me to my question): By mid-2024, there were roughly 3.5 Million refugees in Germany. Over one million of them were from Ukraine. For the whole of the EU, there appear to be almost 7 million refugees from war-torn areas and a total of 13 million refugees in total (includes internally displaced people), and 1.7 million asylum applicants. Those appear to be official numbers and not right-wing talking points. I suppose in your mind, that means that people don't flee to Europe?

https://www.unhcr.org/europe/europe-figures-glance-2023 https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zahl-gefluechtete-deutschland-100.html

Trying to do my part. So happy to have this site.

Geez, I had no idea! Thanks for sharing. Watched the A-team almost religiously back then.

I suppose it's the way of so many sites: Initially, they pursue some higher goal, which attracts users. Once people start participating en masse, the focus quickly shifts and it becomes all about making money - which is fine as long as there is a balance. They lose out once the scales tip too much in the direction of profit while the initial purpose becomes more of an afterthought.

I used to have a reddit account and truly enjoyed it - but I quit when it became obvious that most of the site is simply run by bots that aim to stir the pot and divide people. I still read various reddit posts - but there is no longer any real knowledge to be gained. Mostly, I now just experience frustration, mistrust, and disappointment.