Did you buy it legally from someone who also legally owns it. That's the basis.
Firemyth
joined 2 years ago
Great- grand. wonderful. Make that argument then. Don't call for death, evil, redistribution of personal wealth/investments. Those are silly go nowhere arguments. I lived in Austria myself for a number of years. I've lived in a number of countries- I totally agree there are alternatives. It's the rabid frothing at the mouth blanket calls for violence and/or moralistic bs attacks on ALL LANDLORDS that I'm objecting to
Sure please do. I'd love to see when it becomes evil. So far I'm not seeing it.
He doesn't. Part of the risk of making shady deals.
Just fyi I think I know where you are going and you are going to be disappointed with the result.
Landlord/owner whatever. They are synonyms. That you think it significant is concerning.
provide a place for people who can't afford them
If the value of the home and the income from rents is the same as your expenses it's a bad investment and should be sold. Doesn't have to be necessarily if it's not costing anything but it's just not a good investment.
Too bad. Person b will work off the debt. He's just made life harder for himself and he reaps that reward.
That's why there are systems in place to verify ownership and this is part of the risk of buying from shady characters.
Person b compensates person c. Person a gets their car back.
Person b goes to jail for theft.
Not seeing the connection here.
As I've repeatedly stated- my argument is an individual argument. Yours is a misplaced blanket that attacks me personally.
I don't have a problem with you guys wanting a system change. I have a problem with you guys not having a viable alternative and making personal attacks then getting upset when I object to said personal attack. You saying all landlords are evil is an Individual attack to which I take exception.
More like
Bank - > landlord
Landlord -> bank
Landlord -> property taxes, maintenance, improvements, insurance, pest control, etc
Renter -> landlord
You not taking these simple facts of life seriously really highlights why Noone in reality takes you serious But hey- who am I to interfere with your obviously well-educated and experienced self.
No you.
Renters pay for a place to live.
Homeowners pay for equity.
Facts are facts sorry you don't like it.
The moment a renter pays taxes, repairs, mortgage, and all the other miscellaneous items a homeowner pays for AND there was an agreement that it's a rent-to-own situation- THEN you have an argument t.
Except in every other thread I'm also being thrown under the guillotine. So - you need to have an internal discussion so all of you are on the same page. You need to actually say what you mean rather than the buzzword salad you all spout. And most importantly you need to come up with a real solution rather than this hyper stupid and never gonna happen idea that people are going to just give away what they own.
It became a thing people owned when the legitimate government that owns the land decided to sell it to a private citizen/gift it/however it was legally acquired.
Where you are going with this results in tribalism, nomadic cultures, and anarchy. It results in survival of the fittest. The idea that everyone contributes equally is a great IDEA. It's NEVER in the history of the world been practiced. There's always someone who tries to game the system either through manipulation, laziness, or personal power gain. People are not all the same and have varying abilities. Some of those abilities are rarer/more valuable than others and have always will always be rewarded thusly. Going your route just puts us right back here eventually.