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And honestly, the way DEI has been handled in some cases really was not very good. I support the basic principles behind the movement but IMO the proper way to ensure that underrepresented groups get their chance is to address the problem at its roots - improved education, improved political representation, improved access to utilities and financial support and so forth. Hiring quotas are counterproductive. So I'm hoping that after the rubble settle and a new progressive movement eventually rises from the ashes it'll have the opportunity to take a better approach.

One silver lining that I'm hoping for is that the collapse of American global influence might result in a rollback of the insane intellectual property regime they've been pushing on the rest of the world for generations. There were already hints of this sort of thing happening back during Trump's first term; the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty originally included a bunch of clauses protecting American IP but when Trump withdrew the rest of the signatories redesigned the treaty to remove those clauses.

The withdrawal of American foreign aid sucks, but likewise may end up removing roadblocks to various good things like family planning, sex ed, and so forth being offered. A lot of America's foreign influence was a mixed bag due to their puritanical demands.

The political history of Canada is just flipping back and forth between the Liberal Party and Conservative party (with the name of the Conservative party switching now and then). I consider it very weakly "multi-party," IMO the third parties act as spoilers more often than they act as a "check" on government. The main thing that's keeping third parties around is that minority governments aren't completely ineffectual. I'd rather see coalition governments like those common in Europe, though.

The earlier the better I suppose. Americans kind of trapped themselves by turning their constitution into a holy book, though.

Didn't say it did work. I'm not presenting a solution here, I'm not the messiah.

For a problem like what the US currently has, IMO they're kind of past the point where voting alone is going to solve it. They needed to change their voting system before an authoritarian despot took control. Hopefully they'll remember this when trying to piece some sort of new government back together once he's gone.

Well, you get part of your wish. The article's about how they're going to stop talking and not do anything.

Worse, third-party candidates are actively counterproductive. Here is the classic short video explaining how first-past-the-post voting systems inevitably lead to a two-party state.

Speaking of being full of shit. As per that link, you're going to great lengths to cherry pick "favorable" results out of the wide variety of options that the polls covered.

Also, that link is from 16 January 2025. Trump hadn't even been inaugurated yet. Do you realize just how big a shift in Canadian (and global) opinion has been going on in the time since then? The whole point of the article this thread is attached to is mocking how Poilivere's party has lost, a result that's in large part a result of the increase in Canadian identity and patriotism that's followed in the wake of Trump's attacks once he was in office.

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Beyond just a little alarming. Over 40% of the population basically said "We don't want Canada to survive the next four years" with their vote.

No, that's going way too far.

Bear in mind that although you might be focused on this election as a single-issue voter, lots of other people don't share that focus. When there's polling specifically about whether Canada should join the US the positives are in the below-10% range, comfortably into "just crazies and loons" territory. But a political party like the Conservatives have a wide range of positions and people can find them compelling in various ways. Conservative voters also want Canada to survive, they just have different opinions from you on how to accomplish that and what "survival" means.

I'm quite happy that the Conservatives didn't get into power, I think Carney is the right person to be leading Canada right now. But let's not jump to painting people we disagree with as being all a bunch of lunatic monsters.

Yeah, it'd be a three day special military operation. Just like when Russia took Ukraine.

Americans are extremely averse to casualties and pain. We could make an invasion hurt. I doubt they'd be able to endure a genuine war that genuinely enters their homeland. Not for long.

And even in the most insanely charitable world where we assume he is "trolling", he's still saying an intensely offensive thing to Canadians without any reason other than "lulz." That's the most charitable possible interpretation and it's still awful.

Of course, most Americans don't realize it's an intensely offensive thing. That's a major part of the problem.