FaceDeer

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 11 months ago

In my experience the vast majority of posts about Elon Musk are from people who hate him and are tired of hearing about him.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about a summarizer, I'm talking about a classifier. It just needs to identify which parts of the page are advertising and which are not.

The point of such a tool is that it would read the web page in exactly the same way that a human would, so using trickery like pre-rendered images of text or funky unicode wouldn't really change anything. If a human can read it then so can the AI.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Well, the "at least for now" part is my point - if people start using "gibberish" to communicate or to hide their communication, that provides training material for LLMs to let them figure out how to use it too.

LLMs learn how to communicate based on existing examples of communication. As long as humans are communicating with each other somehow then LLMs will be able to train how to do that too. They have the same communication capabilities that we do at this point, so there's not really any way we can make a secret clubhouse that they can't figure out how to infiltrate.

Personally, I think there's two main routes we can go to deal with this. Either we can simply accept that there's no way to be 100% sure we're talking to a human any more and evaluate the value of our conversation based on the content of the words spoken rather than the composition of the entity generating them, or we could come up with some kind of "proof of personhood" system to allow people to label the text the write as coming from them.

The latter is extremely hard to do, of course, both from a technical and cultural perspective. And such a system would likely still allow someone's "person token" to be sneakily used by AI, either by voluntarily delegating it (I could very well be retyping all of this out of a ChatGPT window) or through hackery.

So I'm inclined toward the former. If I'm chatting with someone and I'm having a good time doing it, and then later I find out it was a bot, why should that change how much fun I had?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don't see how that would be practical. People who aren't "in on the joke", as it were, will call out the gibberish and downvote it. If enough people are "in on the joke" then the whole forum becomes useless and some other forum will be created to fill the role of the original. The AI will train off of that one.

Basically, if you don't want an AI training on your content, then don't post your content in public where an AI will see it. The Fediverse is the last place you should be posting since its very nature is about openly broadcasting your content to whoever wants to see it.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 13 points 11 months ago

Adblockers aren't made by "corporate overlords." This wouldn't be either.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 51 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Someday soon my "adblocker" might be a personal AI that reads the spam-ridden website on a virtual display in memory, identifies the actual content while pretending to look at whatever ads the site demands, and then passes the information I'm actually looking for along to me. Good luck captchaing that.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 11 months ago (9 children)

You realize that this is only going to train LLMs how to recognize "gibberish?"

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Good intentions", I presume.

My position has always been "if there are people who are disadvantaged then pass laws to help disadvantaged people rather than making the assumption that everyone with a particular set of genetics need help." I guess it's just easier to take that shortcut though.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Knowing whether I have First Nations blood on my mother's side would have real legal benefits for me (my mom is estranged from her family and so has never told me much about them, but there's some possibility there given their historical context). I know a friend who had to prove he was 1/8 Metis in order to get a job as a web designer with a particular company.

I think it's ridiculous and flat out racist, frankly, but there are indeed benefits in this day and age from having particular ancestry.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, when I saw this headline my first thought is "aww, my dog loved it when I got an Amazon package because she got to destroy all those balloon things for me."

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 11 months ago

That would be ideal, sure, but simply getting rid of the extra space that would allow the item to bounce around inside the box is very useful too.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's unfortunate that there's such a powerful knee-jerk prejudice against blockchain technology these days that perfectly good solutions are sitting right there in front of us but can't be used because they have an association with the dreaded scarlet letters "NFT."

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