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I criticize both the DNC and the American voters.

However, one of those things is much more capable of short-term change than the other. So criticism of that thing is much more valuable in the short term than criticism of the other.

Direct quote from the orange man: vote for me this one time, and you won’t have to vote any more. But I’m sure you conveniently missed that part of the rage cycle last year and definitely aren’t being obtuse in bad faith.

I honestly have no idea what you're saying here. I think democracy is good, overall. You're apparently agreeing with me, but in a way that makes it sound like you're accusing me of opposing democracy somehow?

The voters can make an objectively incorrect decision, that is their prerogative.

The decision being made is "who do we want to have as president?" It's an opinion.

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America is a democracy, is it not? In a democracy the voters decide who leads them. There's nobody to "overrule" them. If you want to lead them you have to convince them to vote for you, you can't declare them "wrong" and take power anyway.

Don’t worry though, we won’t have to worry about voters soon, right?

Are you saying that'd be a good thing? That seems to be what you're suggesting, but this also seems to be sarcasm.

Do you think the voters should be overruled when they vote Republican but not when they vote Democrat?

Both things are true.

That's fine, I wasn't saying the second thing was false. I wasn't saying anything about the second thing at all.

The Democrats don't get to choose what electorate they're trying to convince. They must convince the American electorate. You can say whatever you want about the electorate but that doesn't change the Democrats' one job.

IMO his legacy is "yet another politician who merely craved power to no end and didn't know when to let go of it willingly."

He did okay with America's economy. He wasn't Donald Trump. Those are his main positives, and to be fair they're pretty decent ones. But turns out his negatives were big enough that people became interested in having Donald Trump back, which is a pretty damning indictment.

The problem is they're going to either try to make money with it or do some black hat shit that this will help facilitate.

And then they will fail at it, because that's not what these tools are for. I don't see why this is a problem.

If someone is asking you "hey, I want to use this Replit thing to build a competitor to Amazon, I have an MBA so I'm sure I can do it. Want to invest?" Then by all means try to talk them down off the ledge or make sure you're far enough away to not be in the splash zone.

But this is someone saying "I want to make tools that non-experts can use to do productive things." I think it's not fair or reasonable to oppose that. Making computers more accessible and generally useful to the public is a good thing.

I said basically proven out. They launched the booster and they got it back. What, specifically, do you think is the obstacle to reusing it? What insurmountable problem do they still have to work out? Obviously they're going to continue refining the design, but the design fundamentally works.

Sure, $3 billion+ US taxpayer dollars went toward the development of a lunar landing and return vehicle,

Starship was being developed regardless of that contract. SpaceX is developing it to launch their Starlink satellites. The lunar lander contract is a bonus.

This clickbait headline has been making the rounds for a few days now. Replit's CEO is not saying that AI has "replaced" professional coders, he's talking about their company's target market.

It's like a website provider making tools to simplify website creation for small businesses so that any mom-and-pop store can have a basic website, and saying "we're not aiming these tools at professional website authors." They're simply not trying to occupy that niche.

Get ready for a bunch of unskilled people making the shittiest apps imaginable.

Those apps have their place. Why shouldn't an "unskilled" person be able to make some little tool that does some specific task they need done? I'm a professional coder and I make "shitty little apps" all the time for throwaway tasks. I think it'll be empowering for the average user to be able to do that sort of thing too.

Obviously, don't go buying such apps and installing them on your own phone or whatever. That's where professionals still have their place.

Sure, but the subject of this thread is whether Democrats have learned lessons from this. The Democratic Party can also make decisions, and ideally it'll make some decisions that attract more votes next time.

They didn't last time. Maybe they're getting what they wanted, and it's the DNC that should be trying something different?

As predicted.

You're missing the lesson too, ironically.

The voters didn't like what the Democrats were offering them, they wanted change, and they wanted it badly enough that they went ahead and ate that dog-turd-and-glass-sandwich.

You're saying "they shouldn't have eaten that, the sandwich the Democrats were offering was better." Okay, well, they did it anyway. So you're wrong. The Democrats were wrong. They've been wrong multiple times now. They're doing the "Am I so out of touch? No. It's the voters who are wrong." Meme.

America's a democracy. The voters aren't wrong, as much as you might personally disagree with their choice. If you want a different government you have to offer them one that they'll vote for. That may require some compromises, but that's part of democracy.

I hope that they get it this time. This is the second time in recent memory that they've made this mistake. Even Biden's election was closer than it should have been. I really hope that the DNC gets its head out of its ass and cleans house, but articles like this are disheartening.