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Yeah I can't really disagree with people's assessment of how much travel-by-loading-screen there can be, but like... while it's there, I just mostly haven't noticed it. Thirty hours in now and I find I'm mixing up fast travelling wide distances with "manually" travelling by launching into orbit and jumping place to place fairly regularly, I don't think I'd even have thought to criticize it without coming here.

I like how immersive travel can be in a game like NMS, but it's not like it's all that exciting or fun to pull into the atmosphere for the 500th time and maneuver to your landing pad, or spend longer than a loading screen amount of time to boost out of atmosphere to hit the jump button. We're exchanging one form of slightly tedious load for a different one.

In this case I'd call that a positive statement. That's what I was looking for when I decided to get the game... I'm not going to shell out my dimes to Bethesda hoping for disco elysium, I basically want something that makes demands of my brain just a little more than solitaire or minesweeper.

I don't really agree with it not being 'engaging' though, I guess depending on what you mean. I'm not staying up at night wondering what's gonna happen next, but I'm staying up past my bedtime designing space ships and then running out of cash and going and doing a fun loot-and-shoot mission to get more money to build more space ships. That ain't bad.

They're up to ten or twenty now.

Tbf I once looked seriously at a house with a giant garage because I wanted to turn it into a huge hobby and rpg space.

Probably, but this isn't a bar and your face and tone aren't visible, your meaning can only be judged by the letter of what you wrote.

Whenever anyone calls me by my "they them" pronouns in game, a tiny juvenile part of me chuckles at the Gamerz out there who I'm sure are frothing at the mouth at the fact that I can play a single player game how I want.

Rt critic scores are, imo, one of the best rating scales. Think of it as a percentage chance a fairly average movie watcher is going to like this movie. It's not saying "this movie is 75% good". It's 3/4 reviewers felt it was worth watching, and does not comment on if they thought it was amazing or just okay. Marvel stuff tends to score high because mostly, despite not being some peak cinema, it provides an entertaining experience that earns a passing grade from most people. Movies that are more niche tend to get a lower score but that doesn't mean they're bad, just more niche.

I like this because it's easy to understand what it means with a little research. Most game scores don't do that and I find it annoying

As you can see in the other replies, I don't think that's what people mean at all.

I haven't had a single serious bug in thirty odd hours so far. I, and others here, aren't saying it's a good game "despite it all", we're saying it's a good game on its own, but if you were looking for something that is in a different style than Bethesda makes, you're barking up the wrong tree. It's a simplistic mass appeal looter shooter rpg in space. It's a good one of those. It's also subject to all the expected limitations of a game like this, that's all. It's not going to be something it's not. If you expected to pay for a good one of the kind of looter shooter RPGs we expect from this company, it is what you paid for.

Seriously? On the very slim chance you're actually just this clueless about polite communication,

Did they pay you to write this? Are you forcing yourself to enjoy the game because you paid so much? Or am I insane?

It's not the third line of that that people object to, it's what is implied by the entire statement. We assume you don't consider yourself insane, because that's obviously hyperbole, which means you do seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is either a shill or stuck in a sunk cost fallacy.

Consider the alternate phrasing of that entire statement, eg. "I'm just not seeing it. Am I insane or something?" And then the rest of your post. Nobody would be nearly so irritated with you in that context.

"in my book" is a valuable phrase there. I also wouldn't call it anything that extreme (and I like it) but it's a good game, it's not a stretch that someone might absolutely adore it.

People aren't annoyed at you for asking if you're insane, they're annoyed at you because you apparently don't know that it's possible to do that without insulting everyone who disagrees with you.

You're misunderstanding. At this point "Bethesda game" is its own subgenre, and many complaints about this game are complaints about the subgenre itself. If you don't like being the Big Special Hero, you won't like this game. If you want the game to have rich, detailed combat that stays challenging throughout, it probably won't be this one either

If you want a huge world with lots of curious little things to explore and more side quests than you can do in a lifetime, built on a backbone of a kind of flimsy story (imo not a terrible one this time) that you are mostly gonna skip out on to go do dungeon hops and loot accumulation, then you're probably golden with this. And by now, most of us should know what we're paying for, I think. As long as you expect and want what they consistently make, this game delivers very well

On top of that, the combat and general mechanics are just far better than the usual Bethesda offerings this time around. It's fun to fight in zero g. It's an absolute blast to disable an enemy ship and then board it. The side quests are legit quite fun and exciting, with NPCs I've found I really enjoy and want to see again.

As long as you expect a game that is like Bethesda makes, it's a very nice and fun one that delivers more than I had expected from them by a long shot. If you expected a deep, hardcore indie gem, you're going to be disappointed and also you're maybe kind of a silly person. It's a mass produced game for a large audience, that's the stick by which to measure it.