EnglishMobster

joined 2 years ago
[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They can and have, is the thing.

There's been a few subs knocked out by Reddit giving the mod roles to a greedy powermod. Some "regular" mods are becoming powermods by playing nice with the admins and requesting huge subreddits.

Reddit isn't bluffing when they say "Open up or we will make you." Some teams are reporting less than 24 hours passing between them getting the "admins are knocking on your door" message and the mod team being removed and replaced with a powermod that moderates 100 other subreddits.

It's becoming obvious that you will be opened, like it or not. If mods want to continue to protest, they need to start doing malicious compliance. Subs are looking closely at Reddit's rules and following them to the letter.

Did you know Reddit considers heavy profanity to be NSFW? So you could mark your community as NSFW and use AutoMod to ensure that every post has a curse word in the title. Then since your community is obviously NSFW Reddit can't advertise on it, because ads don't run on NSFW subs.

Other mods are avoiding this approach in fears that Reddit will just ban NSFW entirely. Those are the John Oliver subs. Reddit says "it can't be a surprise what the sub is about" but clearly there's leeway because /r/trees isn't about trees and /r/marijuanaenthusiasts isn't about marijuana enthusiasts. Hence "only pictures of John Oliver"; if Reddit comes after that then they'd logically be banning /r/trees, /r/anime_titties, /r/196, etc. as well.

Reddit says that it's a democracy (it isn't, admins will always be dictators), and that users should decide the direction of the subreddit. Hence posts asking the users for their input. And of course they're only listening to the demands of the users, after all...

The only way to damage Reddit is from inside Reddit. Make Reddit a miserable experience. They're following all the rules! But it's not a good place to be. Then promote communities elsewhere (also perfectly within the rules) to push people off of Reddit and onto other sites.

And they're just doing exactly what the admins asked them to do, after all.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The moderators organizing the protest had been trying to organize their own thing for a while to port their communities over.

It's becoming increasingly obvious that the "own thing" was untenable; too many differences to reconcile. Different mod teams had given up on the process and have already started to make places on Lemmy/Kbin.

Remaining closed is seemingly impossible; if you remain closed, Reddit will replace you within 24 hours). That's not a bluff; Reddit has done it (and is creating more and more powermods in the process as these big subreddits get centralized into the hands of giant powermods that cooperate with the admins).

With that in mind, they've decided the best way to damage Reddit is from within Reddit itself. Over the last couple days they've been putting together guidance on how to stay within the letter of Reddit's rules while maintaining the protest. Among that guidance is tips to make Reddit as miserable as possible while heavily promoting alternative communities. Everything is officially following Reddit's rules to the letter, so if the admins punish these communities they're proving those rules to be a farce.

A lot of places are now making the jump to alternate communities. Some are on the fediverse (here's a list), some aren't. But now it's "official" guidance from the protest leaders, so expect to see a lot more advertising for Lemmy/Kbin from subreddits that participated in the protest.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  • Mastodon: Like Twitter. You can follow people, or #hashtags.

  • Lemmy: Like Reddit. Subreddits on Lemmy are "communities". Different instances have different communities.

  • Kbin: Both Lemmy and Mastodon combined. Subreddits on Kbin are called "magazines". Posts can be made to magazines directly, plus Mastodon posts with #hashtags will be automatically cross-posted to the appropriate community.

All of them are part of the "fediverse". Because of this, they can all talk to each other. You can follow Lemmy communities and Kbin magazines from Mastodon. Kbin allows you to follow Mastodon users from Kbin.

All that changes is how the content is displayed. Lemmy displays it like Reddit. Mastodon displays it like Twitter. Kbin has different tabs that let you switch between both.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, a world where Napoleon conquered Moscow and renamed it "Paris".

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

AutoMod handles most of it. We just go through the queue and manually approve stuff.

However, the app doesn't have the queue IIRC. So people will be waiting a long time for their posts to be approved. It'll slow down the sub considerably since I can really only mod from desktop.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This is the post that founded Lemmy. I suggest giving it a read if you want to understand their headspace:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230613194858/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Fuck the white supremacist Reddit admins, want me to set up a self hosted one for /r/communism?

(Ed. note: this became Lemmygrad)

Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.

Posting this in light of a recent one week Reddit ban I earned for shitting on US police, as I'm sure many of us have gotten in recent weeks.

So I've spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it's pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.

Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are, so we should never abandon Reddit entirely, but it's been clear to all of us from day one, that communities like this stand on unsteady ground, and could be banned or quarantined at any moment by the white supremacist Reddit admins. This would be both a backup and a potentially better alternative. Moderation abilities are there, as well as a slur filter.

Raddle isn't an option obviously since it's run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

I wanted to ask ppl here if they'd like me to host an instance, and mod all the current mods here.

Calling out specifically: "Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are". If you go to lemmy.ml, the admins will "agitate" for Chinese-style authoritarian fascism.

Anything which is critical of China or the admin's goals is deleted, with flimsy excuses. It's best to avoid lemmy.ml as much as possible. Hopefully once other instances get large (sh.itjust.works, lemmy.world, kbin, etc.), we can defederate from lemmy.ml just like most places have defederated from Lemmygrad.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Beehaw doesn't allow you to create communities. They were our initial choice until we learned that.

Kbin is against hate speech, which is all I ask for. And we had issues with those users on Reddit regardless; Reddit doesn't instantly ban someone the moment they spout the n-word across 12 subreddits.

Usually AutoMod catches/removes it, then we ban when reviewing modqueue. (Which the official app doesn't have last time I checked.) AutoMod doesn't exist here, which makes that harder... but we're small enough that it doesn't matter.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I'll have to run it by the other mods.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

We do have a very aggressive AutoMod with a lot of false positives. We're about the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, but people frequently come to ask about Tokyo Disney or Disneyland Paris or Walt Disney World.

That's the number 1 thing AutoMod catches, but then it also catches people saying something innocent ("XYZ is better at Disneyland than WDW").

If we turned off AutoMod, we'd quickly become a "generic Disney theme parks" subreddit. I brokered that idea to the mod team before we opened up, but they weren't completely onboard so we didn't go through with it.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yes, that's the plan. We have it at the top of our sidebar, and as a sticky post.

I had an AutoMod that automatically mentioned it everywhere but the other mods asked me to turn that one off as it was a little too invasive.

I'm hoping to also make it an announcement that sticks at the top of the page instead of the AutoMod (the current announcement is stale anyway). But that one is waiting on some of the other mods to sign off.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Ha. They want that stuff they can go to <other subreddit redacted>.

It's been bad since Trump. COVID was the worst though.

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