EnglishMobster

joined 2 years ago
[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For Lemmy, if nobody has subscribed to a community locally, you need to search https://instance.social/c/whatever to get [!whatever@instance.social](/c/whatever@instance.social). Once someone subscribes locally, searching [!whatever@instance.social](/c/whatever@instance.social) works.

It's pretty unintuitive, especially when Kbin lets you search @whatever@instance.social even if that community isn't on your instance yet.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Kbin doesn't have as much of this because it's simplified quite a bit. It's one reason why I recommend Kbin to newbies, because it gives you a giant "sign up" button immediately.

But to answer your question:

  • Instance: a server that hosts everything. You and I are on Kbin.social, which is an instance. Another Kbin instance is fedia.io. Kbin has relatively few instances. Lemmy has oodles (Lemmy.world, Lemmy.ml, sh.itjust.works, etc.). Lemmy actively encourages people to spread out over many instances.

  • Magazine/Community: If you're on Kbin, I'd hope you know what a Magazine is. Lemmy calls them Communities. Reddit called them Subreddits. They're all basically the same - buckets for people to make posts about certain topics.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not necessarily? I guess it depends on what magazines you read.

A lot of the magazines I've read over the years are collections of things submitted by readers. Model Railroader magazine is a bunch of model railroads submitted by people across the US. They'll pick a few to feature, but they're all basically submitted by readership and it's fairly interactive.

Lego Magazine was the same way when I was a kid. While a lot of it was about upcoming Lego products, there was a significant section that featured Lego builds made and submitted by the community.

For newspapers, I'd absolutely agree that it implies an editorial staff and no input from readers. But magazines (to me) have always had a focus on community involvement.

IMO, it translates quite well to the web, and the fact that there's a big ol' "+" button with "add new article" as an option makes it pretty obvious that this isn't just a static read-only place.

My main hangup was "make new post" vs "make.new article". "Make new post" will make a Twitter-style short-form post in the "microblog" side; "make new article" goes as a Reddit-style self-post thread on the threads side. But once I understood that it was pretty straightforward, and I use both pretty regularly (articles for self-posts I'd normally post to Reddit, posts for little one-off thoughts or things I'd otherwise put on Twitter).

Kbin is planned to work with more fediverse stuff at some point as well. It already supports Pixelfed (Instagram) and PeerTube (YouTube). Mobilizon (fediverse event planner) support is on the roadmap, which would let event planning appear natively as well.

So if you ran a magazine based around a TV show, you'd be able to add a Mobilizon event that corresponds to when a new episode comes out. Then that event would serve as a "megathread" for episode discussion once the episode airs. It's a pretty neat idea, since it intuitively reminds people when things are and gives the community a place to discuss.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For Lemmy, if nobody is subscribed to that community on your instance you have to copy the entire URL. E.g. you need to search for https://instance.social/c/sub in order to find !sub@instance.social.

Once one person on your instance searches for it, then you can find it by searching !sub@instance.social.

I don't know why Lemmy works like that. Kbin doesn't have the problem; you can find things by searching @sub@instance.social no matter what.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

On Lemmy, if nobody is subscribed to a community on your instance, it doesn't appear in that view.

In order for it to appear, someone with an account has to go to the search bar at the top right of the page and type in the URL to the community manually. Then it'll appear after an initial search.

On large instances like Lemmy.world, you can almost guarantee someone has already done this for most popular communities - but newer/smaller communities may not appear because nobody on your instance has searched for them yet.

For smaller instances, there are likely multiple communities missing and you'd have no idea until you went to look for them.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reddit was the same way.

You have /r/gaming. /r/games. /r/truegaming. /r/videogames. /r/videogame. Etc.

Each community was slightly different in subtle ways, but some people were subscribed to multiple (basically identical) communities. Others self-sorted into different communities based on moderation style and community vibes.

Not to mention that your idea of how federation should work kind of ignores moderation and community preferences. Communities hosted on Beehaw are tightly moderated. There may be other communities that want something less strict. How do these two reconcile with one another? What happens if a conversation is removed on one instance but kept around on another?

If local mods only have local power, they can get quickly overwhelmed as you effectively need a mod team on every single instance. Smaller instances wouldn't necessarily have the manpower to have their own dedicated mods for literally everything.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FWIW, Kbin integrates a lot more smoothly with Mastodon than Lemmy does. Lemmy does this weird thing with boosts, but Kbin looks like native posts.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

this one right here

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lol how quirky and random!!!! :3

video compression doesn't compress noise very well, so files with a lot of random noise will be very big!! and take up a lot of space on their servers!! and use a lot of bandwidth for reddit to serve!!!

hahahahaha it's such a pisces thing to do~

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Sold to Squarespace for some reason.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

About halfway through this starts reading like ChatGPT. I don't disagree with the premise, but I do wonder if a human wrote this article...

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