EmptySlime

Now I kinda want to try soju. I have yet to meet a drink with any appreciable amount of alcohol in it that doesn't taste like paint thinner smells to me. The only way I've ever been able to "not taste the alcohol" is if there's barely any in the drink.

Do you know what "distinction without difference" means? It's when you present two things as being entirely different when they function the same way. By treating what ICE is going right now as some new "distinct" thing and ignoring how it's part of a broader issue you make it easier to ignore the whole issue.

Say we win and ICE vanished tomorrow. What is there to stop Red States from just weaponizing the regular old carceral system to effectively continue the same policy? How do you fight against it when you were so bent on saying "No, this is different," and everyone just shrugs because "Oh they're getting due process now. What more do you want? They're criminals,"

You don't have to say that this is some new horror we've never seen before to stress how bad what ICE is doing is. You're actively working against yourself when you make ICE out to be some extraordinary aberration and not the natural progression of American policing.

The fuck do you mean am I for real? Yes let's compare this group of people getting arrested by "law enforcement officers" because "trust me bro, they're criminals and need to be deported," with this group of people being arrested by law enforcement officers because "trust me bro, they're criminals and need to go to prison," shall we?

One group gets no trial, the other gets pressured into pleading guilty regardless of whether they actually did the thing they were arrested for, gets as little as 5 minutes with their public defender depending on the location, and can still end up losing everything even if they're acquitted because of how long they were held for. Oh yeah, that's due process alright.

Of course ICE is the battle we need to fight right now, but let's not fucking pretend that this is some fresh horror we've never seen before. They just feel like they can get away with being more bold with it because "they're illegals" where they don't feel that way with poor people yet. They still feel the need to pretend we get due process.

No no no, it's where you learn to make partially dehydrated juice that you can freeze for easy storage and just add water to when you're ready to make it.

It's a distinction without a difference. At the end of the day both groups are still random people the government has said "These are bad people trust us," and have not proven it. Pretrial detention still definitionally means they're being held without trial. It's just been decided it's okay in one situation and not the other. What does it matter if someone is theoretically "awaiting trial" if in practice they are just waiting the rest of their lives?

Yes, the immigration detentions are worse. But both are still fundamentally denying due process to those detained.

Not that I can see. The infected water still needs to get into your nose from what I'm reading.

A huge chunk of the American carceral system is people in jail awaiting trial. According to the Prison Policy Institute 70% of the population of city and county jails are pretrial detentions. They can't afford bail so they are stuck in jail without ever being convicted of anything.

Oh yeah, for sure. Personally I see Carter as the "good version" if you can call it such a thing of the "Do-Nothing Democrat" if that makes sense. The thought that basically all Democrats have to do is be faithful stewards of the status quo and allow the arc of the universe to slowly bend towards justice. To tinker around the edges letting incrementalism and institutionalism carry them forward.

Then as time wore on more and more the Democrats would start saying "why shouldn't I enrich myself a little? After all, all we really have to do is keep the institutions going and they're doing that just fine on their own," until you get to the ghouls of today. Where they're there because they deserve to be there, and they deserve to be there because they're there. All the while lining their own pockets and saying "Fuck you, I got mine," to everybody else.

H-how dare you speak ill of the uwu smol bean that is Jimmy Carter?! Something something peanut farm something something.

Seriously though, yeah. Carter's historic unpopularity and unwillingness to step aside are a big part of why the loss to Reagan was so overwhelming and why Reagan was able to do so much lasting harm to the country.

Yep, they were so traumatized by losing to Reagan that they abandoned everything they ever stood for and started racing right trying to find the "center" and to this day think it's the only way to win.

Not only is it real, I saw a video that his team cut together of the moment like it was a damn Play of the Game highlight of him "owning" the Republicans. Words cannot express the depths of my hatred for Democratic leadership at this moment. This bill is going to be one of if not the most catastrophic pieces of legislation ever passed and THIS is all their so-called "resistance" amounts to?

I hate them and their strategy of "Do nothing, give the Republicans enough rope to hang themselves, then make it the responsibility of the voters to get rid of them so they don't have to promise anything or stand for anything." They gave 'em though rope alright, except they're not hanging themselves, they're diving off a cliff and the rope is tied around our waists too.

Yeah, in the case of stuff like this the usual failing of the Democrats is limiting these programs too much. Usually born of their pathological need to seem "fiscally responsible" to so-called "moderate" voters. Things like allowing the child tax credit expansion to end with no fight, or means-testing programs to the point of absurdity. They'd rather deny assistance to 10 people who need it than let a single person benefit from assistance they think doesn't "deserve" it enough.

Generally speaking, for Republicans the cruelty is the point. Whereas for Democrats the cruelty is a byproduct that they lack the imagination to realize doesn't need to exist.