Are we going to start pretending this is something new to bash on reddit?
Given the lack of context the mods might be in the right here, what is up with the expectation you can just barge up to a community and say whatever you want, there are rules for a reason.
Sure let's circlejerk
I am personally guessing it's this option, people keep saying the idea is to EEE but I don't think this would be the most effective use of Meta resources since they should be focusing yheir efforts at beating twitter.
I will just say, that image of what the fediverse is (or ought to be), while not rare, is not shared by everyone.
If you actually want gatekeep only high effort posta you might want to go to Tildes.
I don't think gatekeeping is the answer, I mean I always wanted this platform yo grow horizontally unless there are many, many instances and a lot of people for variety. If you want to see only high effort content only join appropriate communities, it's as easy as that. To justify blthr block because it will taint the space is just a bad arguments in my eyes.
Holy shit what is this level of cringe!!??
Already responded, seriously, edit your comments instead of replying twice, it is really annoying.
Emmmm, kind of disingenuous. And by that I mean a lot.
First of all, who takes the word of someone at face value that they didnt commit a crime. One thing would be a confession, which you can of course still doubt if there are proper reasons, but a defense saying "what I did is not a crime" is useless in itself.
Second, he is being disingenuous here. He mocks the loverboy methos like it is a fake accousation with no meaning behind, seriously describing it as "being nice" is sick.
If you are actually interested on why it is condemned and considered part of traficking, read the part on grooming here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking
And here is a law firm article on the matter: https://www.carlsonattorneys.com/news-and-update/loverboy-andrew-tate
Seriously though, this clip is no reply. He literally deflects the accusations "I pretended to love girls to make ticktock for money", no, that isnt the accusation, it was forcing them into porn by coercing them and placing them in situations where it is difficult to reject. The allegations are serious, one thing is to defend himself saying he didnt do it, but to try to downplay what he has been accused of (and even said himself he has done years ago) is sickening.
But a counter is that much of that information is already public and can be scraped, they aren't gaining much on outside meta users that they aren't already able to do.
Best advice at the end of the day is that for social media, unless advertised on privacy, never post anything you dont want to be public. And for cases like lemmy, expect even metadata to be available for anyone interested.
I understand the wish to not interact with meta, even if its for privacy concerns.
But Im a firm believer that it is the user first who needs to make that decision, not the instance. But as I said, Lemmy being the only one of the big fedi platforms right now that doesnt have a feature for instance/domain blocking user level kinds of screws this up.
Good points. I'm sure there are other potential solutions to reduce the fear of EEE taking place here. I don't really think EEE would work, since instances are supposed to be small and operate horizontally, it is kind of impossible to kill Lemmy as long as we understand that we need to spread out a little bit (otherwise huge instances being defederated hugely impacts the user experience)
One thing though, Mastodon does allow for blocking domains. I just tried it over Mastodon.online and also through the fedilabs app, both are working. Kbin also has that feature, wish they implemented it to Lemmy so that we can empower users to customize their experience without needing to self host.
Why? If you have blocked meta shouldn't you already be exempt from seeing comments and posts by their users on other instances? Why is this punitive approach needed
Edit: (Alongside downvoting, an explanation might be better suited to change people's minds, I just eant to know the advantage of this approach since you are excluding yourself from many users and you would have already blocked meta in this scenario)
Same reason I joined, don't mind the being blocked that much since it's out of anyone's control, but 0 blocking is a position I respect, let user's decide has always been my ideal of the fediverse, only thing that has me slightly worried is the upcoming meta conversation.
Although at least for lemmy it's kind of a useless conversation, since there shouldn't be much interaction but it sets up important precedent for each and every instance how they handle it. (Especially considering the existence of the fedipact)
I would prefer it if we don't block them at an instance level, but the lack of tools by lemmy for a user to block instances kind of hurts my take of "let users dictate the content they see", hope it gets added soon.
I agree with the sentiment, I'm not a fan of preemptively blocking meta on instance level, especially when everyone was touting about how the fediverse is corporation resistant and by design it is resilient because of it's horizontal nature, but at the first sign of threat they resort to the nuclear option.
Having said that, Lemmy specifically lacks tools on the user level, especially blocking instances. If a user doesn't want to associate at all that is understandable (privacy concerns, not wanting to interact with hate groups, etc) but right now they can only block communities and users individually, which would make it impossible to block meta.
Lastly, I feel there are avenues that haven't been properly explored, like forcing them to open source if they want to federate. (On the grounds of privacy concerns and security) In practice that would be the same as blocking them, but it would laid out a good foundation for new companies that want to enter the space without having to discriminate on a case by case basis.
Problem is that blocking is the nuclear option and everyone blovking before something comes out, which no one knows the danger yet like a hate speach platform would entail, goes against the spirit of the fediverse.
I'm with you on this one, in a vacuum I don't really have a problem with the term "normie" but here it is completely being used as gatekeeping.
This whole meta controversy has really caused some brain rot, a lot of people talk about this place as if it's better because it "gatekeeps". They say they enjoy this place because it is niche and doesn't have the "below room temperature IQ posters" (actual quote I saw)
I don't like this attitude, I really don't like it. It is way to common on the internet, especially for hobby communities to have this attitude.