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Idk I guess my eyes have an AI filter on them. Can't seem to see his hand doing the physical motion of drawing the gun until after he's standing in front of the car. Crazy. They also just released another angle showing she definitely tried to block traffic and sat there honking for a while before she was approached, so your arguments aren't aging very well. No worries tho. I unsubscribed from the news part of Lemmy. You can have it 😁

His feet in the video clearly show that he was hit, even if it wasn't that hard. He could have avoided it by stepping aside, but that doesn't change the fact that her tires were turned towards him when she hit the gas, but she quickly turned the other way to avoid him. Was that on purpose? Who knows, but it makes sense to me that he would want to fire at the car if he believes he's about to be run over, which would be true whether he's a demon or an angel(the same being true for calling her a bitch immediately after). Of course, that doesn't mean it's justified according to the law, just like if someone hits you in the face, many people's reaction would be to hit back, even though that might not be the right thing to do. Beyond that, we have many years of videos of police interactions with people where they did have to shoot, sometimes when someone tried to run them over, which would be vehicular homicide. That's the case for justification.

From what I see in the footage(the far-away angle), she dropped someone off(presumably her child) and just parked sideways in the street for a while, blocking most of it, which isn't wise if ICE just happens to be on that same street and needs to use it, even if you don't agree with them. When approached by officers, regardless of whether they were 100% following proper procedure, most people would just turn the car off and comply, choosing to fight it in court later and win one of the many successful lawsuits other civilians have won in the past. Instead, after watching him walk around her vehicle filming, she chose to listen to her wife, who yelled "drive, baby, drive" and hit the gas. Whether she was a victim or a criminal, that was foolish because she clearly did it before he pulled his gun(obviously the conservative crowd would argue that was what made him do it, but who really knows).

For the record, I'm not defending the guy who shot her either. Even if the first shot he fired was justified, the 2nd and 3rd shots were not.

I suppose, yet again, if I(and textbooks) don't agree with your definitions of empathy and sociopath, I'm in the wrong by default, but then, I guess you're arguing "empathy" over logic, so it really shouldn't be surprising. Thank you for helping me to understand your point of view, even if you don't want to have a discussion.

I absolutely agree.

This is kinda ironic, because people are also calling me obtuse for asking some questions, which is quite the opposite of the definition. I'm not on either "side" and I definitely don't agree with Trump or his administration, but that doesn't seem to matter. Anyone who actually knows me IRL knows all that, but if I don't agree with you 100% or have some questions, I'm a nazi bootlicker defending violence and fascists(which is pretty extreme when we've only exchanged a few words). If I met you on the street, I'd offer to buy you a beer and talk for a bit, but that isn't even an option on the table in your mind.

I once worked at the Logansport state mental hospital in Indiana. There was a guy who had a rottweiler stuffed animal and would get very upset if he didn't have it. I tried a few times to ask him about other dogs. He would listen and then just repeat what he knew about rottweilers again, verbatim, no matter what questions I would ask or pictures of other types of dogs, etc. I wasn't even trying to change his mind, just understand his processing a little better, but he was not capable of having that depth of communication with another human being. This reminds me of that.

Interesting. So what comes next? Civil war or hostile conservative takeover? I'm certainly not arguing we aren't headed for fascism.

Not really. That first shot was almost justifiable because he was hit by the car immediately after the wife screamed "drive, baby, drive!", but the next 2 shots were definitely indefensible. Can we have a discussion before you call me a bootlicker? If you knew me, you definitely wouldn't say that. Seems like you're the bad faith actor here, just sayin.

Fair enough.

Ok, but isn't that pretty fucking extreme?! I'm not saying you're wrong at all, but if you're right, at least half of the government and half of the nation are all brainwashed on some hidden hand agenda. I'm no stranger to conspiracy theories, but are you saying we're coming to the culmination of all that?