Darkassassin07

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Certainly. I'm not saying they're a good thing; just lending credence to their existence.

Though I'll note; to use them you need access to the wifi radio carried by the individual you're tracking. Ie; you've already hacked their device.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Apple's got one, so does Google, and Microsoft. They're common tools for scam baiters tracking down call centres and individual scammers. Pretty effective actually.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

That comes down to the policies of each individual police department. They're all different.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God damnit, Hillary's at it again...

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Reading that article:

Given it's public dataset not owned or maintained by the developers of Stable Diffusion; I wouldn't consider that their fault either.

I think it's reasonable to expect a dataset like that should have had screening measures to prevent that kind of data being imported in the first place. It shouldn't be on users (here meaning the devs of Stable Diffusion) of that data to ensure there's no illegal content within the billions of images in a public dataset.

That's a different story now that users have been informed of the content within this particular data, but I don't think it should have been assumed to be their responsibility from the beginning.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A person (the arrested software engineer from the article) acquired a tool (a copy of Stable Diffusion, available on github) and used it to commit crime (trained it to generate CSAM + used it to generate CSAM).

That has nothing to do with the developer of the AI, and everything to do with the person using it. (hence the arrest...)

I stand by my analogy.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do... Do you really think the creators/developers of Stable Diffusion (the AI art tool in question here) trained it on CSAM before distributing it to the public?

Or are you arguing that we should be allowed to do what's been done in the article? (arrest and charge the individual responsible for training their copy of an AI model to generate CSAM)

One, AI image generators can and will spit out content vastly different than anything in the training dataset (this ofc can be influenced greatly by user input). This can be fed back into the training data to push the model towards the desired outcome. Examples of the desired outcome are not required at all. (IE you don't have to feed it CSAM to get CSAM, you just have to consistently push it more and more towards that goal)

Two, anyone can host an AI model; it's not reserved for big corporations and their server farms. You can host your own copy and train it however you'd like on whatever material you've got. (that's literally how Stable Diffusion is used) This kind of explicit material is being created by individuals using AI software they've downloaded/purchased/stolen and then trained themselves. They aren't buying a CSAM generator ready to use off the open market... (nor are they getting this material from publicly operating AI models)

They are acquiring a tool and moulding it into a weapon of their own volition.

Some tools you can just use immediately, others have a setup process first. AI is just a tool, like a hammer. It can be used appropriately, or not. The developer isn't responsible for how you decide to use it.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

I had, perhaps incorrectly, taken OCs comment to mean filing the same charges again, looking for a second trial that actually proceeds while the first is endlessly delayed.

Totally separate charges would indeed be a separate matter.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (20 children)

....no

That'd be like outlawing hammers because someone figured out they make a great murder weapon.

Just because you can use a tool for crime, doesn't mean that tool was designed/intended for crime.

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