Danterious

Apparently I'm already a flexitarian so baby steps I guess.

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It definitely is used that way and I probably should've worded my post a bit differently so I don't discourage others from taking action.

What I actually think we need is individual level systemic actions which is sort of oxymoronic but I think it has some sort of logic to it.

For example if you think that capitalism is causing a lot of the worlds problems then stop buying stuff and try to find ways to reuse what you already have or get it without engaging with that system (swap shops, free cycle, etc).

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. There is obviously some things that you can't live without buying on some capacity, but like you were saying don't let good be the enemy of perfect and it is better to find alternative systems or ways of doing things that still satisfy your needs.

And I'll say this is true of climate related problems too. Even if capitalism isn't necessarily the main cause, the goal should be to identity what system we think is causing these problems and gradually try and replace these systems in our daily lives with something hopefully better.

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Actually that's partially why I started putting the creative commons license in my comments. Legally I'm probably not gonna be able to support it in court but for me its more about saying fuck you to the commercialization of everything.

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Yeah you are right. It is just that we sort of get stuck at that level and are never willing to actually take systemic actions because it will disrupt the status quo by definition.

So instead we find new technological solutions or habits that distract us until the next miracle drug (action) is presented.

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Ok, I watched the video and I agree with Hank's point. Taking action towards your values, even if it isn't effective by itself (which Hank argues against), is always a good thing.

The thing is there are barriers within society that make it harder to make the ethical choice. For example if I wanted to be a vegan I'd have to pay extra since the dairy and beef industry have subsidies and most corporations charge extra for vegan/vegetarian options.

Or if I wanted to help with pollution and started to recycle yet most of the recycling gets thrown in landfills anyways because of how things are stored with other trash.

And I'm not saying that just because it is harder that people shouldn't try and do the right thing but the thing is that most of these barriers are dynamic and will change to make it just as hard for people if it starts taking away power from people at the top.

I think the general point that is trying to be made when people say that collective action is needed instead of individual action is that individual action doesn't really change underlying problem that is causing most of the harm and instead is just making the cause of the problem more bearable.

I'd say if you want change it is better to take action that encourages the system to change rather than taking action that doesn't focus on effecting that at all.

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Maybe something that allows them to grow some food there. Or a composting toilet. Anything that would allow them to stay there as long as necessary.

Edit: ooh and defensive barricades that are hard to take down.

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Seems like you have a better idea than I do about privacy so I'm probably not gonna be much help. However make sure that you use extensions that you trust or use as few permissions as possible because that also can be another vector where information can leak.

Oh and there was a post on here sometime ago about a website that show what kind of information it can get from your web browser so you could use that to check how much info you are leaking on the web at least.

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Any hardened version of Firefox, like LibreWolf, would be my main choice.

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Your comment inspired me and I just finished moving over. So thx.

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Relate it to something that they do care about and show how it negatively affects that.

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I loved that show. Any other time travel stuff you'd recommend? Shows or books.

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