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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Lemmy, rarely Discord.

I swap between 2 instances on Lemmy, depending on my mood. Either Lemmy.ml if I feel like engaging with liberals and trying to lead them to theory, or Hexbear.net if I just want to relax or check the News megathread.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Not to be pedantic, but "corporate socialism" isn't a thing, that's just Capitalism as it monopolizes.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (22 children)

To side with the even more genocidal Trump team? What kind of crazy is this? There isn't a third option. There's horrifically bad and there's even worse and you're siding with even worse. Come back to reality, Cowbee, it misses you.

Of course not Trump, he's just as genocidal as Harris, Walz, and Biden. You're siding with genocide, that's unacceptable.

The class is holding a vote on whether to put the "slap the ugly kid in the face" guy in charge or the "kick him in the nuts" guy in charge. You're right to say the kid should be left alone. You're right to say there should be a third option. You're right that there should be no slapping. You're right that the vote is offensive. But you can't stop the vote and you can't stop the violence. None of us can.

Pure defeatism, if we have to torture this poor kid then it's best to tell the teacher to fuck off.

But fuck you if you can't bring yourself to say that the kid ought not to be kicked in the nuts and fuck you if you tell all the nice kids not to vote and fuck you if the kid gets kicked in the nuts because of your idiot intervention that only ever talks about the slappers and gives the kick-in-the-nuts crowd a free pass.

You are still under the grand delusion that the GOP is worse than the DNC on the issue of genocide. They aren't, this is a bipartisan effort. Biden has even sent in the troops and Walz said Israel needs to expand.

Not voting just lets the "kick him in the nuts" guy win every time, which is why the "slap him in the face" guy came up with the slapping policy in the first place.

No, this is so far removed from why America supports the genocidal settler-colonial entity. America supports Israel because Israel is a rabid dog on a leash that America uses to terrorize the Middle East and secure the Petro-Dollar, which it uses as the global standard to have a monopoly on Financial Capital, enslaving the Global South with predatory IMF loans.

Please, do some actual thinking.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (18 children)

You seem to think that letting the more genocidal republicans win would encourage the democrats to be less genocidal, which is bizarre.

They are the same. They both support Israel undyingly, Biden is even sending in the troops.

They move right when they lose to compete with the republicans because the republicans win with a right wing strategy.

They move right because that's what their donors want.

If the democrats won all the time, the republicans would have to move left just to regain power, and the Overton window would move left.

No, they wouldn't. Fascism is Capitalism in decay, both parties are always moving rightward.

Not voting for the democrats in order to move them left is insanity. They will respond by copying the more successful electoral strategy.

If the Democrats don't want to regain left votes then they are too far gone and we need a revolution.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They aren't the same, but are never found without each other.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why are you including things which have not yet made it to the Communist stage of development as examples of success of Marxist theory?

Because Marxism isn't Utopian. Marxism isn't a grand idea of a just society, but a theory of historical development. Read Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, this is basic Marxism.

That isn't a proof that Communism is great yet. It's calling the experiment before actually seeing if it works.

No. Communism is not an "experiment." Marx didn't come up with Communism as a grand society to implement, but saw how one Mode of Production gives way to the next, ie how Capitalism monopolizes into socialized syndicates over time, reaching central planning after proletarian revolution.

And I am not quick to call the USSR or Cuba particularly Dictatorships of the Proletariat. They became actual Dictatorships that carried forward the heirachy of the paramilitary organizations that spawned them never ceeding them to the workers councils like they were supposed to do instead creating new dynasties of career politicians....Career politicians of a one party state are not "working class".

  1. They were not dictatorships.

  2. Cooperarives aren't Marxism.

I suggest reading Why do Marxists fail to create the "Worker's Paradise?" You have an anti-Marxist idea of what Socialism and Communism are. I also suggest reading Blackshirts and Reds to debunk anticommunist myths. I know I recommended both texts, and I know you didn't read them. You really should!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But its difficult to say if he had everything figured out because his "dictatorship of the proletariat" doesn't seem to ever actualize in a lasting fashion. It usually ends up as an authoritarian state arguably because the system is vulnerable to the first group that decides to break faith with the covenant

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the DotP and Communist history in general. The PRC has a DotP, the USSR did, Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, etc. All have a DotP. Read Why do Marxists fail to bring about the "Worker's Paradise?" You have an odd, idealistic idea of Marxism that even Marx would deny.

A lot of Communist hopefuls tend to either take the examples of this happening as "not true Communism" or try to minimize the bad aspects of regimes that adopted the principles... It does seem once power is too laterally spread it becomes weak to any hierarchy that as long as they can talk a good game and use Marxist language.

This is just a bunch of gestures. The reality is that AES states are truly guided by Marxism, and are true attempts at Communism, but haven't made it to the Communist stage of development.

In either case a lot of us would not call those outcomes "proven correct". I would say he had some very lasting ideas which are useful tools... But the fact that none of the places where attempted enactment have particularly lived up to his hype means that like a lot of philosophy of his time that the answers are a lot more complex and nuanced than he could have forseen.

They have absolutely lived up to the hype, coming with drastic reductions in poverty, wealth inequality, increases in life expectancy, housing rates, ending famines, free healthcare and education, democratization, and more. Please, read Blackshirts and Reds.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

For clarity, comtemporaries of Marx and Engels also called them authoritarian, hence On Authority.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What an idiot, directly bombing his chances by going full mask off zionist. Zero concessions. Hope he likes losing the election due to his massive zionist tendencies (and Kamala, Biden, Trump, etc)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Not to be nitpicky, but it really depends on what you're talking about. The Petite Bourgeoisie, for example, has a tendency to try to align with either the Bourgeoisie or the Anarchists as they are proletarianized by big competition. When they align with the Bourgeoisie, this usually is a factor in the rise in fascism, also known as Capitalism in decay.

The general Proletariat vs Bourgeoisie conflict is certainly one of the most important nationally, but internationally it is the Imperialist Bourgeoisie vs the Proletariat and Nationalist Bourgeoisie, as we live in the age of Imperialism, or "moribund Capitalism."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hexbear.net is anti-sectarian, so it has AnComms and Marxist-Leninists alike, with no infighting allowed. It probably has the largest number by quantity.

dbzer0 has many AnComms, though it's explicitly a Piracy instance.

Lemmy.ml has Anarchist communities as well as the Solarpunk instance, but neither have the numbers of the other 2 instances listed.

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