Cowbee

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

I defend capitalism because it is the most equitable and productive economic system that has ever existed, lifting more people out of poverty than ever before.

Incorrect, Socialism gets that honor, the PRC is responsible. Read Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism.

Free markets create space for those who don’t fit in. As an autistic person, I appreciate a world where I can find a way to survive other than convincing a committee that I deserve to exist.

This is an absurd strawman of central planning.

Under a free market, one gets rich by providing value. Economic relations are mutually consensual. That’s the definition.

Even more absurd. Individuals get wealthy by exploiting laborers. Economic relations are enforced by the system itself, not consent. The Laborers must work to not starve.

What is called “capitalism” these days is, generally speaking, the places where the free market has broken down. Slaves aren’t a free market scenario. Only having one available job isn’t a free market scenario. Big corporations controlling the government to prevent their competition from surviving or arising isn’t a free market scenario.

Yep, Capitalism defeats itself. You can't turn the clock back.

All the “worst aspects of capitalism” that people complain about are exactly the aspects of the world that most resemble capitalism’s alternatives like anarchy and centralized command economies.

Correct, Capitalism socializes itself and paves the way for central planning.

We need more free market, not less. We need to let people buy a pack of cigarettes and then sell them for $2 a pop to make a profit, not kill them for doing this.

An absurd comparison and a strange call to go back in time to less developed Capitalism.

The anti-capitalist hate is the result of decades of anti-working class propaganda that has made generations of people dedicated to destroying the very thing that gives them hope and possibility in the world.

Capitalism's decay.

Biggest psy op in history, as Marx himself would be the first to recognize if he were alive and commenting today. I defend capitalism NOT because I want to fit in, but because it is the right thing to do.

Marx would be elated to be proven correct.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I am aware of the process, the US produces the vast majority of its commodities oversees before "finishing" or "assembling" in the US. It's Imperialism in action, where it hyper-exploits the Global South for super-profits.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Social Democracy isn't a blend of Capitalism and Socialism, it's Capitalism with social safety nets.

Either way, what you describe maintains accumulation and monopolization, which results in more privitization and disparity, which we see in the Nordic Countries. There are no static systems.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Issue of centralization is regime and politics agnostic. More centralization just results in more corruption.

Again, please explain. This doesn't logically follow.

I am not sure how to run the society any other way but we know that current systems are corrupted by the ruling elites at our expense.

Capitalism is, Socialism isn't.

Legal system is unwilling to deal with it because the judiciary are just regime lapdogs used against working people when they get out of line.

In Capitalism, yes.

Have you read Marx?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (12 children)

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, correct, but the point of Marxism is that it doesn't matter what individuals believe, Capitalism itself paves the way for Socialism just like Feudalism paved the way for Capitalism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The US shifted the vast majority of its production overseas, which is why it's seen as a "service economy."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Explain. You cannot achieve democratic control without centralization, because you can't have inputs with no output.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Oh, TIL. Thanks!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I'm confused, do you think the USSR's economy was powered by starvation of ethnic minorities, and through this magic starvation power industrialization could occur? What point are you trying to make?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

They weren't "free"-market reforms. A good, 21 minute read is the article Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism. The PRC brought back markets because they tried to achieve Communism through fiat, without letting markets adequately coalesce into monopolist syndicates ripe for socialization. The Dengist Reforms brought stability to growth and prevented recession, but the bulk of the economy is publicly owned and centrally planned.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Should be mandatory reading, thanks for posting it!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (10 children)

The PRC is absolutely a viable alternative, it's a Socialist Market Economy that has been steadily transfering Private Property into Public Property as markets coalesce into monopolist syndicates, which are then capable of central planning.

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