Cowbee

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Lemmy.world absolutely isn't Leftist, it's overwhelmingly liberal and the mods are anti-Marxist, even defederating from Marxist instances. Lemmy.world is allowed to be a liberal instance, but pretending it's socialist is silly.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The short answer is that Socialism does work, and continues to work, and that SocDem countries like the Nordics depend on heavy exploitation of the Global South to fund their safety nets and still see shrinking worker power (a process Marxists call imperialism).

The longer answer is that Marxists don't believe Socialism is better than Capitalism for any moral reason, but because they are Dialectical and Historical Materialists. They track where Capitalism is necessarily heading, ie free competition gives way to monopolist syndicates with internal planning, socializing themselves and making them ripe for public ownership and central planning.

Similarly, the PRC is a Socialist Market Economy. The model is described as a birdcage, the CPC allows markets to naturally develop but only along their guidelines, and increases ownership as competition creates these new monopolist syndicates. Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism is a good article going over China's economic model. The CPC has the power it has as a Dictatorship of the Proletariat, it needs that power to maintain supremacy over their bourgeoisie. Communism is achieved by degree, not decree.

A good primer is Why do Marxists Fail to Bring the "Worker's Paradise?" an excellent article that goes over materialist examinations of AES states vs idealist examinations. Another good reference is Blackshirts and Reds. AES is by no means perfect, but it does and did work.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Marxists generally support AES, so instances that are pro-Marxism tend to be supportive of the CPC. I don't think there are any Syndicalist instances or anything, so you'd have to go to an Anarchist server like dbzer0 or something. Lemmy.world tends to be right-wing, especially because it's defederated from Marxist instances and some of the mods have ridiculed Marxism in general.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Gross, thanks for the info though.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

My favorite primer is Elementary Principles of Philosophy, it's great and starts from the very beginning.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

No problem! If you finish them all and for some reason want more, I have plenty of other recommendations, and you can DM me if you have any questions. I personally really like reading the modern author I linked, they have a bunch of niche, specific essays like Dialectical Matetialism in the context of Quantum Mechanics (makes sense if you've read Elementary Principles of Philosophy) or Marxism vs Anarchism, or why Cooperatives aren't Marxist (not a purity test! They are socialist but not Marxist). Have fun!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You've got a bit of a choose your own adventure!

If you consider yourself a liberal and generally against AES like the USSR, PRC, Cuba, etc, Blackshirts and Reds is a fantastic critical reexamination and reads very well. Nothing but constant truth bombs.

If you want to get into Marxism, I recommend The Principles of Communism followed by Socialism: Utopian and Scientific as well as Elementary Principles of Philosophy. An intro/FAQ of Communism, followed by the history of Socialism and how and why Marxism answers the problems with previous Utopian Socialists, and finally the best work on the philosophical aspect of Marxism, Dialectical and Historical Materialism.

If you want some quick reads, I love Why Do Marxists Fail to Bring the "Worker's Paradise?" as well as Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism. Modern analysis, 20 minute reads, based on what we currently know and not written back in the period of Marx.

Finally, if you consider yourself a Marxist already, The State and Revolution as well as Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism are both Lenin's most significant works.

Really though, the modern works and Blackshirts and Reds are great primers before delving into Marx, Engels, and Lenin themselves.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Depends, how familiar are you with Marxism?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

They'd get sent to Exploding Heads, most likely.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Exploding Heads is a Nazi instance that many people don't even know about because of how defederated it is.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Why believe in it beyond the conception that it's possible?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

How familiar are you with Dialectical Materialism? That's a Marxist conception, very similar to the scientific method. Marx wasn't just an advocate for Socialized production and eventually Communism out of any moral superiority to Capitalism, but because he applied Dialectical and Historical Materialist analysis to Capitalism to predict where it was headed: monopoly and centralized syndicates, ripe for siezure and public planning.

The Dialectical theory of knowledge is similar to an endless refinement and spiral of the scientific method.

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