Cowbee

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

To be fair, if you go in constantly arguing against AES, you're going to get pushed out. The poster I linked was willing to be proven wrong.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I'd like to see examples, it's easy to look that way.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (9 children)

You've advocated for voting for fascism, I have explained that revolution is necessary. Pretty simple!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I played defense, I never changed the subject, and never changed the fundamentals of the argument. You made the baseless claim that Trump would be far worse for the Palestinian people, while Biden has given Israel everything and then some, without backing it up. You can't actually answer my point so you slander me as alt-right despite advocating for Marxism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago

This isn't what's happening, though. The Dems and Reps are aligned on Israel because it isn't a moral issue, but economic, which is why Biden has given Israel everything they want, including approving the invasion of Lebanon. The US supports Israel as a settler-colonial project because it helps the US secure power in the region, securing the Petro-Dollar as the world currency. This is how the US exploits the Global South, through predatory IMF loans, aka Imperialism.

Read To Stop Marx, They Made Zion. The genocide of Palestinians is for economic reasons, it cannot stop without a One-State Solution.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Given that, why wouldn't American leftists (if they existed) want to participate in electoral politics that can transition us to socialism? Since we are already a developed market economy, it should be just a matter of re-alignment of the cultural priorities in order to produce that change.

Because the bourgeoisie have no interest in transitioning to Socialism, they can only lose. The only way to wrest power from them is revolution. It isn't as simple as "re-aligning cultural priorities," the electoral system is a reflection of the interests of the bourgoeisie as they influence through donations.

The path to socialism is not just through violent revolution.

It is, sadly.

Yet American leftists seem to be either nihilistic and cynical, or hell-bent on violent revolution being the only way to socialism.

Correct.

A violent revolution in America would inevitably fail without buy-in from the public at large.

Correct.

Buy-in from the public at large will only come through education and indoctrination and by changing minds. But American leftists seem to want to isolate themselves into exclusive online enclaves like Hexbear and Lemmygrad and reddit's "socialist" subreddits, who ban anyone who wants or needs to learn.

This is wrong. Ideas change with material conditions, as disparity rises leftism rises as well. Capitalist decay brings about Socialist values, making the public more accepting of Marxism. Additionally, Hexbear and Lemmygrad don't ban people who want to learn, just people who pick fights and refuse to. See the "Redpill me on China" thread. If you make a Lemm.ee, Lemmy.ml, Hexbear, Lemmygrad, or whatever you want account and meaningfully ask for people to clarify their positions without picking a fight, you'll get honest and kind answers.

Why are leftists so anti-evangelical (for lack of a better term)? Why don't leftists want to recruit?

They do recruit, like what I am doing right here and now. The reality is that the vast majority of liberals aren't convinced logically, only when it becomes ideologically convenient.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Realistically? Probably not, but it doesn't help!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (11 children)

It's a good article, but it specifically deals with markets centralizing and making themselves ripe for central planning under a DotP, it won't answer the questions of Reform or Revolution like State and Rev and Reform or Revolution do. Their analysis is still good to this day, the bits of analysis that weren't as good I obviously didn't link (like Mao trying to socialize too early, which was wrong).

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