Cowbee

Your only way to the top is to change the political model into one that's more favorable to you; and the easiest way to do that is to keep not-fascism in power long enough to get the general population pissed off enough about not having ranked choice that it starts making its way into bigger and bigger elections. Your next-easiest path to victory is insurrection... that most likely both fail and get yourself killed, so please don't do that. Your least-easy path to victory is to allow fascism to take root, as that will push the model even further away from your reach: if that happens it's game over for everyone except the fascists.

Why do you think fascism exists, and why is it present in America?

My point is that tiny, inconsequential pressure is allowed so that you think it applies pressure. Whenever it gets close to making a difference, it won't.

Somewhat. Voting makes very little difference at the federal level in the first place, and the huge importance placed on it does placate liberals somewhat.

Depends on how well Leftists organize, or don't.

We're using Value a bit diffetently here, Value isn't necessarily equal to price.

There are multiple revolutionary parties you can join, if you want to. They all have mission statements, and none of them are "let's get Trump elected and hope for the best."

Wait, does genocide not count for you if the victims are Muslims? Or are you denying that there is Palestinian Genocide right now, and America is supplying it? Which is it?

Gotcha, I'll watch while you goosestep with 99% Hitler instead of lifting a finger to stop anything because 99% Hitler is running against 100% Hitler, and 99% Hitler is acceptable to you. Pragmatic, even.

My point is that if the only thing you care about is not electing a Republican, the ratchet effect will mean the DNC will eventually become so right wing they commit genocide. Oh, shit...

Where along the DNC's journey to the right do you hop off? Is it never? When do you hop off the electoral trend and join the Revolutionary trend?

Does Trump have fascist magic that makes the bipartisan bombs stronger? Does Kamala have neoliberal magic that makes the bipartisan bombs weaker? Neither will be worse than the other for Palestine.

I thought you said "Adios?"

I proved it by illustrating your portrayal of history as important people doing important things, then I contextualized why they happened. Asking you why you believe events happen isn't "moving the goal posts," it's the entire point of this conversation. If you truly reject Great Man Theory, then give an explanation for why Reagan was elected that rejects Great Man Theory.

You do realize that that's why the DNC is currently getting away scot-free with genocide, right? Is there a line in the sand somewhere for you?