Cowbee

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[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Both are important, and you don't get to only pick one. You can do both, prevent fascism and genocide, while also building up leftist structures like unions and networks of mutual aid.

That's like asking you if you're going to wipe your ass after you shit or wash your hands, and saying you can only pick 1. This is the absolute dumbest "would you rather" and should be ignored and tossed in the trash.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Reread the original comment. It's absolutely important to vote as loss prevention, but you're never going to get meaningful systemic change towards the left via voting.

Vote to protect, actually make grassroots movements like unionizing and organizing to move to the left.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Can't do much without a mass party to back you up. It takes a lot of people.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Reread the original comment. It's absolutely important to vote as loss prevention, but you're never going to get meaningful systemic change towards the left via voting.

Vote to protect, actually make grassroots movements like unionizing and organizing to move to the left.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (12 children)

There's no chance they'd ever let an actual Socialist into office within the 2 party Capitalist system.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Accelerationism works both ways, I suppose, but there legitimately are fascists in the republican party.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (23 children)

There's nuance, because leftists saying voting isn't going to change anything meaningfully as far as moving towards the left is still true.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

You don't understand, she gave us the clue. It has to be this way.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"G? As in, Gussy?!"

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 158 points 2 years ago (78 children)

There's nuance. Obviously, vote for the liberal over the fascist, it's not even close. However, the fascists are absolutely represented in government, while there's no leftist candidates to speak of. Leftists have to plug their nose and vote liberal, while fascists gleefully vote republican.

Voting is entirely for loss prevention, because ultimately it absolutely impacts minority groups and people who stand to lose a great deal by a republican victory. However, leftists will not be able to move America to the left by voting.

That's why grassroots movements and building up of parallel structures are so important for leftism, it cannot work within the confines of a 2 party Capitalist state, and must be built from the bottom up.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Leftists go to Lemmy because Lemmy is FOSS, ie leftist, and was made by a Communist. Reddit mostly has liberals.

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

He made an account 20 minutes ago just to post inflammatory, hyper-conservative reactionary comments

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