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Oh I think I've walked by there, it's next to that bar with the rooftop patio right? Who'd you see?

That's awesome! I haven't been to any in the area yet. What kind of music you like?

Oh neat, I'm over in St Pete. Hey neighbor o/

!asklemmy@lemmy.world has been pretty busy today, thousands of comments in the last 24 hours.

I don't know much about how any of this works, but my guess would be the embedded browser on Connect hasn't been set up to block tracking? In which case you might try enabling the 'open links in external browser' option and see if you still get tracking attempts.

Well put! I think I kinda misunderstood what you were saying, I guess we sort of reached the same conclusion from different directions. And yeah, it does seem like we're hitting the limits of what can be achieved from the current underlying word-prediction mechanisms alone, with how diminishing the returns are from dumping more data in. Maybe something big will happen soon, but it looks to me like LLMs will stagnate for a while until they're taken in a fundamentally new direction.

Either way, what they can do now is pretty incredible, and equally interesting to me is how it's making us reevaluate our ideas of consciousness and intelligence on a large scale; it's one thing to theorize about what could happen with an 'intelligent' AI, but the reality of these philosophical questions being so thoroughly challenged and dissected in mundane legal and practical matters is wild.

My perspective is that consciousness isn't a binary thing, or even a linear scale. It's an amalgamation of a bunch of different independent processes working together; and how much each matters is entirely dependent on culture and beliefs. We're artificially creating these independent processes piece by piece in a way that doesn't line up with traditional ideas of consciousness. Conversation and being able to talk about concepts one hasn't personally experienced are facets of consciousness and intelligence, ones that the latest and greatest LLMs do have. Of course there others too that they don't: logic, physical presence, being able to imagine things in their mind's eye, memory, etc.

It's reductive to dismiss GPT4 as nothing more than mimicry; saying it's just a mathematical text prediction model is like saying your brain is just a bunch of neurons. Both statements are true, but it doesn't change what they can do. If someone could accurately predict the moves a chess master would make, we wouldn't say they're just good at statistics, we'd say they're a chess master. Similarly, regardless of how rich someone's internal world is, if they're unable to express the intelligent ideas they have in any intelligible way we wouldn't consider them intelligent.

So what we have now with AI are a few key parts of intelligence. One important thing to consider is how language can be a path to other types of intelligence; here's a blog post I stumbled across that really changed my perspective on that: http://www.asanai.net/2023/05/14/just-a-statistical-text-predictor/. Using your example of mathematics, as we know it falls apart doing anything remotely complicated. But when you help it approach the problem step-by-step in the way a human might - breaking it into small pieces and dealing with them one at a time - it actually does really well. Granted, the usefulness of this is limited when calculators exist and it requires as much guidance as a child to get correct answers, but even matching the mathematical intelligence of a ten year old is nothing to sneeze at.

To be clear I don't think pursuing LLMs endlessly will be the key to a widely accepted 'general intelligence'; it'll require a multitude of different processes and approaches working together for that to ever happen, and we're a long way from that. But it's also not just getting carried away with the hype to say the past few years have yielded massive steps towards 'true' artificial intelligence, and that current LLMs have enough use cases to change a lot of people's lives in very real ways (good or bad).

This https://lemmy.world/post/1978767 was just posted a couple hours ago. It doesn't seem to cover what you're having trouble with, but it might be a good place to put what you've learned if they're open to contributions.

I'd personally recommend Garuda, as that's what I've mostly settled with. It's everything I like about arch, but with lots of little changes and utilities that make it both easy to tweak and easy to just use. The built-in btrfs/snapper is particularly nice. I get the whole toy thing though, it doesn't give off the most trustworthy vibes. But if you can look past that it's a great distro. Take a look at the lite edition, it comes without theming and most of the bloat.

You're definitely not the only one. I was baffled by the good reviews considering how little enjoyment I got out of it. I even watched it twice, because it felt like if I disliked it that much I must be missing something big! I think the comedy just didn't land for me - not my type of humor - and without that there's not much to stay engaged with.

wow, ask and I shall receive! thanks!

Oh hey, this is great! Nice work, it found some pretty obscure communities in a few tests. I wish there was a megathread somewhere for Lemmy/fediverse tools like this.