Her last mainstream media appearance in 2021 said Luke Muehlhauser and Galef were engaged and living together. Her last big Twitter thread in 2022 was about genetic determinism.
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Sounds like someone in a jurisdiction which requires all-party consent to record a conversation could sue them
Yes, promising "returns like a good year on the stock market, but no risk" usually says Ponzi.
When the forensic accountants go through OpenAI's books in 2027 or 2028 I would like to see whether anyone but staff and suppliers made money from it.
The subtext sounds like "we guarantee your returns, then go public. If we go bankrupt you get the retail investors' money, if we become the next Google you get your own private island." All you have to do is trust Sam Altman and (breaks out in hysterical laughter).
Do they mean 17.5% a year? My balanced bond-equity portfolio made 14-15% annual returns over the past three years by the radical method of buying "shares of companies that make profits" and "bonds backed by my local and national government." (Update: I made about 12% a year because I backed out of American stocks years ago, but the blandest 60% stock, 40% bond index fund in my country returned that 14-15% a year after expenses).
Vassar was trying to argue with Robin Hanson on Twitter back in 2024. Funny how the 'mainstream' LW posters and the 'weird scary' figures keep in contact!
The Behind the Bastards podcast says that a CFAR workshop or workshops was a big part of Ziz's story of how she decided to found the Vegan Sith. It drew some connections to rationalist discourse and named the person who taught Effective Altruists that saving the shrimp might be more important than human welfare. Pretty soon that gets into the kind of sexual and emotional abuse that I'm not comfortable sneering about though. Its one thing to say that someone tweets creepy things, another to tell a story about an affair between two people I never met.
I think that many people take the techniques for social and psychological manipulation, and Yudkowsky's narrative that he is the Chosen One, and ask "could I be the real Messiah?"
Wait, Julia Galef the skeptic married the guy who took Scientology courses and joined their Toastmasters club?
Valentine also asked Where's the economic incentive for Wokism coming from? in 2022. He was one of the four co-founders of CFAR and left because he had been too close to Brent Dill. Previous discussion here. Someone tried to explain:
The reality is that in the Anglosphere there are lots of progressive people with money to spend on media. You can sell "woke" media to those people, and lots of it. Even more so when there's controversy and you can get naive lefties to believe paying money to the megacorp to watch a mainstream show is a way to somehow strike back against the mean right-wingers. And to progressive people it doesn't feel like "being lectured to about politics", because that's not what media with a political/values message you agree with feels like. So going woke is 100% a profit-motivated decision.
Rationalists love markets in theory, but not when they give ordinary consumers too much power or when actually making a profit is hard.
Vassar's Twitter feed is retweets about solar power is awesome, the state should summarily execute murders if they are "drug-addicted parasites," the UK should attack Iran because Iran attacked the US base on Diego Garcia, and Crémieux Receuil / Jordan Lasker. To me that is clearer and more important than exactly what he said about psychedelics ten years ago!
By Rationalist standards, Aella and her friends are good at asking "what could go wrong and how could we mitigate it?" I think most attendees understand "I might get bruises or herpes" better than most donors to MIRI understand that Yudkowsky might take $600k a year and just tweet some more. I would not trust them on the implementation!
This community has trouble with getting a man and a woman through a meal together before the man starts talking about pedophilia or how programming might not just not be for women. I don't think most of them are ready for rape parties.
I forgot that Ivy Astrix says that someone called chaosprime who was active in Vibecamp and TPOT (a rationalist-adjacent Twitter community with a summer camp) turned out to be a convicted child molester. Funny how that keeps on happening!
chaosprime ran an "alternative Tantric lifestyle community" which briefly hosted Brent Dill after he was chased out of California.
That is just life as a creator who makes meaningful amounts of money (you can't control your fans or prevent them from misreading), but in addition, I think one purpose of these events is to corrupt people. Lobbyists host events in nice hotels with fancy catering for a reason.