CherenkovBlue

That sounds like the start of ritual to me!

Check out the book "Compassionate Satanism" by Lilith Starr. You can buy it on TST's website, I am not sure about availability on other platforms.

Romantic Satanism holds up the depiction of Satan from Romantic period literature as an ideal. The book has a nice analysis of Satan's use at that point as a rebel against authoritarianism who fought for Enlightenment. Romantic Satanists are non theistic and do not believe in the supernatural. TST is an organization of Romantic Satanists but you don't have to be a TST member to be one; the seven tenets of TST are a major guiding force as well.

Totally suggest reading the book - it's fascinating and well written.

Same, also a member of TST and a practicing romantic Satanist. It's brought a lot of strength, clarity, and confidence to my life.

I love you. What an excellent comment.

Hear, hear.

So become the founding member of the Boys Club. It's not necessarily going to be easy, but if it's worth doing, you should stick to it.

Edit: I was the leader of a labor organizing group for a year or so until it was shut down by state shenanigans... So I do have experience in building a group and solidarity.

Women care. I care about this poor man's story (edit: and women's groups helped out OP to find a group that he could join). But we have our hands full with our own issues. And partnering with good men is part of the success of women's efforts to help themselves.

It will be the same way for men's issues, but men need to pick up that torch and lead. Women will help but men need to drive. For example, men's DV shelter services could probably most easily be added by partnering with a women's DV shelter so that there is men's aid in place (though less likely to be needed, depending on location and population density) so it may look a bit different. Men could reach out and drive the development of a partnership program.

I think a fundamental difference to the way that men (as a class) and women (as a class) think about these issues is that men expect men and women to care; but women expect nothing from men. This seems to be a driver for our differences in opinion/perspective.

In my experience as the female friend, no, this is common. However, perhaps you should ask yourself why this is. Men as a whole class in our society do not seem able to connect emotionally and empathically with each other because they haven't learned how to. You can (as a group) learn to do this, but you collectively need to decide you want to and to act.

No. Women for a very long time were not considered fully realized humans in a legal sense. Hell, women couldn't have bank accounts separate from their husbands until the 1970s.

My point is that women were victims and not even fully recognized legal entities and they STILL decided they wanted to help themselves; they organized themselves; and made progress on women's issues.

If "society" doesn't believe men or care about men, well, who is it with those negative attitudes? Society is about 50% women and 50% men. Seems to me a lot of men are not believing men as well as any women not believing men, given the current landscape. You belong to one of those groups. As a member of your class, you can be energized to make change.

No one is going to be an advocate for you (or your class) as much as you yourself. That's not victim blaming, that is telling you how to actualize change in the world.

Men can help each other and SHOULD help each other. Women's groups exist because women recognized issues and organized themselves to help each other. This is why women's DV shelters exist, for example. (BTW, women's DV shelters may help men in need, there are arrangements that can be made to help but keep women and kids separated for their mental health and safety.)

Men can do the same thing and should do the same thing. Perhaps growing that sense of community and learning how to help others will build the social support that men seem to be lacking. But you men have to do it collectively yourself - no one "somebody" will do it for you.

I hope you are doing better these days. (Edit): I do not expect you personally to be able to do the hard work of organizing a DV shelter. This is why it is so important for men as a class to work together to support each other too.

These guys are not part of "the ruling class." I live in this region and there is a backwards group of local asshats who feel entitled to hunt and kill protected creatures for profit or hunt using illegal methods and leave carcasses to waste for the sheer fun of it. These people are typically working class and this black market hunting would provide them with income they probably would not be able to get otherwise. We have a LOT of wild lands out here, it's a very rural area.