Charlxmagne

😐 same thing really. Point is we all know he's full of fucking shit, and was in fact best mates with him. Epstein said so himself.

Bro what's he saying Obama did, yk other than the usual bad stuff every US president's obligated to do, like invade Libya, lie abt Guantanamo, threaten to kill Snowden and Assange in defense of Bush, lick the boots of all his megacorp overlords

Cause if that's what trump's alleging, he's committed dozens of more war crimes in a lot more than just 1 country, his FUCKING minister of defense WORKED in guantanamo, personally torturing and probably raping most poor innocents sitting in there, he's indirectly threatened to kill former members of his own govt for much less and he's best mates with PETER FUCKING THIEL, an evil alien reptilian supervillain cancerous form of life contributing only to the destruction of society, plus he touches little kids.

Anything Donald Tramp could possibly allege about Obama, he has done himself but WAY WORSE. (ik it's a distraction from the fact he touches little kids) HE INVITED EPSTEIN (who he apparently barely knew) TO HIS FUCKING WEDDING.

Epstein documents say that Trump and Clinton were both best mates with Epstein as their mutual, Obama and Clinton both defended Bush's evil war in Iraq and Americans still believe they have any kind of partisanship 😐 😂

It's rugby for pussies lol, these man wearing headgear and still getting braindamage 💀 Rugby players wear nothing more than mouthguards and still don't end up in a murder trial

Sure. Just for clarification, cuz many americans don't seem to understand this but the dems or reps don't encompass the entirety of "the left wing" or "the right wing", both are effectively right wing with one being relatively more left leaning. Not liking one party isn't an endorsement of the other. Because a strictly 2-party state like the US is designed to encourage polarisation and lack nuance within the general public. Plus in other countries other parties aren't interconnected with each other, except maybe countries with fake democracies like Russia and Singapore.

And centrism, outside of America isn't "taking both sides", the UK lib dem party for example is centre-left, slightly further to the left than the ruling labour party which has recently shifted further to the right although being way further to the left than them in the past. The conservative party is about as right wing as the democrats and the mostly fringe far-right reform party is basically like the republicans. What your politics are shouldn't be based on any party, its about your ideals, what is left or right wing isn't dictated by parties, instead parties base how far left or right they are based on their ideals.

For example, the labour party, a historically firmly left-wing party (much more than now), under Tony Blair went to war with Iraq with the republicans, proving that a party's actions don't make their actions left or rightwing. The same left-wing party after incessant lobbying from Israel is now unfortunately providing them with weapons and suppressing free speech, after removing their anti-zionist leader.

Personally I disagree with a lot of what's both considered left and right wing, I make my own opinions and reject the categorisation of my beliefs into something linear, but that's just me, cuz whats left and right changes constantly and differs based on country and culture, in america for example, relaxed gun laws are incredibly conservative since it's already something established within society for hundreds of years, in Europe however, the exact same topic is a very left wing and radical stance since they haven't been implemented/are outlawed.

I, like other Europeans naturally have a distrust for politicians and have zero loyalty to any one party.

The cheek a fucking NONCE of all people must have to call anyone nasty is beyond me. Ain't no party like a white house party. How about you work on yourself and stop touching little kids before calling anyone else nasty

I got suspended TWICE from school just for constant lates 😐

Uhhhh, idfk maybe cuz america's a 2-party state lol. Who tf else is there to block the list? If only they got the monster raving loony party to block the list instead, then they wouldn't have made themselves look like the absolutely guilty nonces they are.

You're screaming what we already know. There is no ignorance, you are no town crier, you are simply noise for the sake of it and I'm sick of the unintelligent cacophony.

🤣🤣🤣 lol you're doing the exact same thing in regards to republicans, yet I'm not arguing with you on that because all your points on republicans are completely valid. If your solution is legitimising the Washington establishment do your thing bro, I'm not here to find solutions to Russia's corruption, Greece's debt defaulting or Venezuela's hyperinflation, they're not my problems, doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to acknowledge it, don't mean I'm crying about it either. My politics are beyond the scope of Washington because like I said before I'm not american, I don't acknowledge washington, I can't put myself in the shoes of an american voter, because none of it's to do with me, same goes for France or Botswana, I'm not from there.

Regardless of who you fucking vote for they're still going to pursue roughly the same foreign policy of blowing up brown people in the middle east, funding Israeli terrorists, performing coups on democratic countries, spying and collecting data on billions of people and fucking little children, so my problem's not with either party on its own, it's with America itself.

why the fuck do we need you screaming it?

Ignorance is bliss sho. I'm just stating what I'm observing, you're the one denying it and legitimising a rogue state ran on a rigged system. I already said this in another thread but, you can't accuse me of "taking both sides" if I'm not american and I'm against one group of people and that's Washington. Either ways not my country not my business. Just stating my opinion, whether you'll choose to care about if Washington gives 2 shits about you is completely up to you.

The dangers of a 2-party state are right in front of you, there's thousand of infinitely more democratic systems out there.

I'm not Russian but it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that everyone sitting in their parliament, regardless of what party has the exact same politics and is equally as corrupt, the other parties are only there to give the illusion of democracy, only in Russia elections are rigged and none of the "opposition" parties have any real power.

people like you just don't have a solution

Like I said not my country for me to be looking for one. This is whole thread is about kiddy fiddling and instead of agreeing on how its disgusting you admitted to wanting to vote for one group of pedophiles just because they're less bad than another group of pedophiles.

I do remember democrats being linked to Epstein, notably Bill Clinton, I do remember them not doing a thing in regards to the list, Trump dug himself the hole he's in because I genuinely think his ego's so overinflated that his braindead supporters with the combined brainpower of a nokia 3310 would back him when he had refused to release that list. He used it as part of his campaign to gain support and the topic would never have come up had he not done so.

When Bill trafficks drugs and little kids it's perfectly fine apparently. Apparently its only bad when someone you voted against does it, when Reagan peddles crack to fund central american fascists it's bad, only when a republican has ties to noncing children it's bad. Listen to your own logic here mate, believing anyone in Washington is there to help you is pure delusion. You can't accuse me of "taking both sides" if I'm not american and I'm against one group of people and that's Washington. Either ways not my country not my business. Just stating my opinion, whether you'll choose to care about if Washington gives 2 shits about you is completely up to you.

I'm not Russian but it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that everyone sitting in their parliament, regardless of what party has the exact same politics and is equally as corrupt, the other parties are only there to give the illusion of democracy, only in Russia elections are rigged and none of the "opposition" parties have any real power.