This was before smartphones I guess
Catch42
joined 2 years ago
For posts I upvote and boost. For comments I upvote, unless the person I'm responding to hasn't upvoted their own comment.
I see that difference as a rather significant one.
Apple could do this but they’d be driving away their customer base, the hardware is fine but software is really the reason to get an iphone.
Most of the cost will not be borne by me personally. Even if the price of food goes up, as someone from a rich country I already spend relatively little of my income on food. I suspect this is the case for most people reading this thread right now. So for me it is about morals not money. Yet, I fundamentally agree with you; money not morals is the easiest way to convince people to make a change. That’s why I focused on it in my original post.
I want to push back on your idea that food prices will continue to go up. IRL, I work in food sustainability, which means that companies hire me to to help them decrease the environmental impact of their companies. While the increasing global temperatures will push down yields if nothing changes, things are constantly changing and tons of people are working very hard to make sure that food yields are resilient to increasing heat. Plus, and this is the area I work in, we are working to reduce food waste at the producer level which will also help reduce upward price pressure.
Anyway, I’ve enjoyed our discussion
Oh nice. I wanted to talk about used phones, but I've only ever bought new so I struggled.
Of course not, it all comes at great cost to the planet. We obviously disagree on the necessity of a phone for modern society. In my frame of thinking where it is a necessity, I write from the point of view that obviously keeping your phone longer is better. It doesn't even warrant mentioning. So my motivation for making this list was to encourage people to consider keeping their phones one year longer. To do that I have to list every single interval so that I can reach the people who most need the convincing: those who upgrade constantly.
Is being smug bad? It's a feeling I enjoy so I listed it as a genuine benefit.
I've heard a few people say this and honestly I'm still confused. I got my iPhone XR's battery replaced by apple themselves last year. I think it cost 80USD, which is too much, and EU law will be a welcome change. Hοwever, it's still saves money even if it delays your new phone purchase by only one year.
Whenever I meet someone who brags about intentionally doing something bad for the environment anti-green, I look at them with disgust. I had a co-worker tell me that she got around the emissions tests for her pickup by buying one of those devices online, and she had the audacity to look at me like she expected me to be impressed.
Oh, for reference, I like a 5 year upgrade cycle. Currently I have an iphone XR, and I'm planning to get an iphone 15 this winter.
I love it when we get answers to what were thought experiments due to new tech or discoveries.
Forgot to switch to your alt?