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You're not wrong, I think I had some misconstruing of the point of his statements.

I think the apathy has started popping up because the onus is being placed on the individual at multiple levels. It's on me to change my habits to the level of environmental conscientiousness which I'm trying to reach; LEDs, efficient appliances, electric vehicle (arguable at this point), recycling efforts across many spectrums, supporting public policy that encourages green practices, etc. But even as a population, that doesn't effect much change when considering corporate practices. Surface level changes to some operations to take advantage of rebates or subsidies, but only so far as it's deemed profitable. Manufacturing and material acquisition still being "dirty", use of international labor to sidestep stricter policies, general obfuscation tactics, lobbyists and generally vast amounts of money actively seeking to stop or reverse policies.

I as an individual can enact much change in my life and those around me. But it falls well short of what a single company could do if they really wanted to take the leap.

I could also just have a narrow-sighted perspective on the situation, but that's largely where I fall currently. The focus on individual efforts vs societal (largely meaning the tools at my disposal beyond what I can provide myself) leaves much to be desired.

I can agree with that

I have no desire to continue trying to win over those people. There are absolutely still people to discuss these matters with. But we can't abide by the lowest common denominator.

I disagree. I recently saw a video of someone saying "if the Bible said 1+1 is 3, I'd be finding ways to make the math work so that 1+1=3." How is anyone supposed to have discussions with someone who's views subsist in that mindset?

There are absolutely unwinnable people, to me. Additionally, they may be winnable, but we're on a clock, and we can't wait until it's done to decide to leave them behind.

I do agree that there are factors larger than them causing the issue, and that needs dealt with as well.

Are we taking applications for the 500?

I'd prefer to stop trying to win over unwinnable people. Whether they join or not, the problem exists. Climate change doesn't care that we may want to placate the more dense-skulled in society. The problem marches on whether they have changed sides or not.

The science is in, has been in, and continues to be in.

The exact same thinking can be applied to the other side though. Guy says it's not an imminent threat, so we don't have to do anything right now. Worry about it next year. Which is arguably what's been happening for a long time now

As previous student who was in school when cell phones blew up in usage, I wasn't not preoccupied by my phone because I had to keep it hidden. I was preoccupied with keeping it hidden so I could keep using it. Texting with T9 without looking was a breeze. The only thing that slowed my usage was the fact I only had like 500 texts a month allotted to me.

Making the kids hide it won't make them less distracted. They just become distracted by hiding the phone. I feel like you'd almost have to just ban phones entirely, which today is pretty impractical.

If it weren't for the humans, humanity would be pretty cool.

Shit I was worried when I bought the 5 Pro that they'd bring the clicky bezel back, but figured it would be something they commit to doing (moving part=failure point).

Welp.

I use it the same way I did on Reddit; it's a decent gauge in how willing I am to engage with that person. If their history is littered with downvoted posts, then I'm less likely to engage because it's more likely they're being inflammatory on purpose.

Karma systems don't make places worse; the value placed upon them by the users does. It's not meant to be a counter for how liked you are, it's supposed to be representative of how you interact with the community; bad karma for bad interactions. But people use downvote as a disagree button, and people spam posts cause "big number make feel good". Good idea, difficult implementation given how humans work.

I always noticed them when I was younger, because I thought it was food for clouds so they could get bigger.

I didn't really understand the concept of planes when I was 5. Lol