BluesF

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[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Are they really defining one slang term using two other slang terms?

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

Omg this might actually be a good reason to get back on twitter

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

How dare you assume that I'm not only full of myself but also uneducated! I'll have you know I was schooled by the finest scholars of YouTube, and received several diplomas from both Udemy and Coursera. Frankly, I am above this debate and will be removing myself henceforth! Good day!

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Clearly they don't, otherwise we wouldn't have anyone trying to mediate conflicts, anyone calling for ceasefire in Gaza. Do we just accept Russia invading Ukraine? If Russia flattened the country and took over, do you think that would be justified? Don't get me wrong, I don't think there would be a procession of countries willing to invade and take it back, but that isn't because Russia would have claimed the land, it would be because they fear for their own people's lives.

Why, if you think every country in the world is only respecting borders because of military power, doesn't the US just take over? They certainly have tje military power to back up an invasion of almost any country on the planet.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

I mean, good luck with that. It's near enough impossible to completely remove bias from any source of information... I think Wikipedia does a fairly good job, honestly, and the talk pages mean you can see different perspectives fairly openly.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you go far enough back we're probably all entitled to the land. Let's just do away with these "borders" and make the whole world into a theme park instead.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

War is the only way that matters! Small consolation to the colonised and conquered. Do we not aim to hold ourselves to higher standards in the modern age? Imagine if our world leaders decided that the only thing that mattered is defending land through war!

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I never intended to disagree with that, but my point was that just because the nation of Palestine didn't exist 500 years ago does not mean that the people who today we call the Palestinians hold no claim to the land.

And it certainly doesn't mean that Israel has a claim to it, does it? There was no State of Israel before 1948, either, what claim did they have to it?

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Sorry who's home was conquered when? The British Empire might not have colonised Palestine but they did conquer it and allow settlers in with the intention of forming a state for the Jews.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I'm not talking about the Gaza strip, I'm talking about the area that was once Mandatory Palestine. That land was conquered by the British during the fall of the Ottoman empire, and subsequently taken over to become (most of) what is now Israel and Palestine. Before the Mandate, you're right that Palestine as an idea didn't exist, but ther were still people there - most of them Arabs, as had been the case for a very long time before Britain invaded and allowed settlers in. Perhaps the Arabs living in Mandatory Palestine should have taken the "deal" offered them by the UN in 1947, but can you blame them? As far as they were concerned their home had been conquered by a colonial power, settlers had arrived from overseas, and now the UN wanted to slice Palestine in two and give half to the settlers! Since then, to the people who have been displaced, I imagine every new deal just seems like they're being hemmed further into a corner. I understand why they wouldn't accept, even though personally I agree that, at some point, they should have - much bloodshed would have been avoided.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

I wish I could say I was surprised... I think there's a need for online spaces where bigotry is just absolutely not tolerated, but I'm not sure every space should become one.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

Man I did not get this joke at all before reading this lmao

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