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[–] Blake@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

If the government decides employees have a constitutionally protected right to wear whatever they want to wear to work, we’re gonna see a lot of crazy bullshit

Would it be a bad thing? I think with some sensible exceptions it would be a very good thing to permit free expression as the default.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

None of that is relevant to my actual point and you know it.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Okay so imagine that you’re on Elon Musk’s private jet, 36000 feet in the air, and he asks you to strip down into a thong and perform an erotic dance for him. It’s his property, he has the right to tell you what to wear. If you don’t like it, you’re free to leave; of course. Do you think that’s acceptable?

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

If free speech existed anywhere before the 1st amendment then you can’t say that any reference to free speech is a reference to the first amendment. It may surprise you to hear that free speech is a concept which often goes beyond the first amendment, even in the US. When Elon Musk talks about “free speech” on Twitter, is he very confused about the first amendment? Or could he be talking about the concept of free expression?

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The problem with all of these things is always unequal enforcement. For example if the store allowed an employee to wear a thin blue line mask, and fired another employee for a BLM mask

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago (11 children)

So that’s a no, then - you don’t have a right for something if you have to leave the system to exercise the right. For example you wouldn’t have the right of freedom of speech if I said “yeah you can say whatever you want if you leave the country!”

So, why do companies deserve more rights than people?

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Wow, that Oracle really was hot shit then, she must have seen the future and shared the 1st amendment with the people of Athens in the 6th century BC.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That just means that employers can push their own political agendas and suppress alternatives.

“Employees may not wear pins of a political nature, such as expressing support for Joe Biden. Wearing a pin expressing support for Donald Trump is acceptable because that is not political.”

Like I said, it either has to be all or nothing - allow self expression or do not. Allowing self expression only if the company agrees with the expression is essentially compelled speech.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

“Also, I love to spread extremely racist and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories alongside my neofascist buddies!”

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

Out of season it’s indeed more CO2-advantageous for us to import apples from New Zealand than to store them

Not necessarily true, it would depend on the how clean the energy source of the refrigeration is. The only other major CO2Eq emission from storage of perishables is refrigerant leakage, but in most commercial scale usages that’s really low.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (14 children)

False equivalence. Free speech and the first amendment are not the same thing.

Amazon spends millions on lobbying politicians, but prevents their employees from wearing a badge which expresses support for an extremely marginalised group.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Do workers have the right to refuse to be associated with something that the company want them to display on their dress code? For example, a corporate sponsor? If no, why do companies deserve more rights than people?

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