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I think feminists who want to convincingly talk to men need to be able to explain how patriarchy is hurting men, how it will not make you happy and ruin your relationships to emulate Andrew Tate etc. etc., and that convincing at least a sizeable chunk of men that the patriarchy needs to be dismantled is indispensible from effective feminist struggle.

But there's a problem in this approach as well, because the ways in which patriarchy hurts men are routinely and effectively weaponized by antifeminists to deny the reality of misogynist oppression and to center cishet men and only the issues affecting them in debates about gender and patriarchy. Strategically, it's important to have counters to this strategy, and that includes both outlining how it's patriarchy that does this damage to men and that this is part of maintaining a structure aimed towards opressing women and other marginalized genders, in which even these damaged men are still the group that gets to enact systemic violence against others. Patriarchy breaks boys to turn them into opressors. That is damaging to them, but it is simultaneously a deal that allows them to in turn inflict damage on other men as tools of systemic violence and to benefit off a structure that objectifies women and devalues our labor for the sake of male privilege.

Do not read up on hexagonal water, you will regret it and it's a lot more counterrevolutionary than hexbear users would initially believe.

Complete gender fascism is inevitable when you seriously want to go through with returning to a world were less than 1% of the population realizes they're trans, that genie's just out of the bottle and you need total, all-encompassing control of all media to ever again effectively stop trans people from realizing who we are. And that's just the knowledge and cracking part, keeping people from being trans in public requires equally overarching control over every single public space. So yeah, you could make a point that runaway transphobia will, if left unchecked, inevitably reach a point where it will drastically infringe on the rights of cis people. That's undoubtedly true.

But when you're discussing that, you've already ceded the point that having less trans people is, in itself, a political goal that's ok as a subject of public debate. That means you're letting transphobes control the debate you're having, because that debate is then about what level of transphobia will start affecting cissies, not about making transphobia in itself unacceptable.

So the "transphobia affects cis people, too" line of thought is undoubtedly true, but it is also a loser strategy that already throws me under the bus before the argument has even begun. It verifies that the only thing to worry about are the rights of butch cis women, while mine are at best an afterthought.

hey cis shit, fuck you

yeah doesn't sound like a plausible thing for him to say, fucker must be sitting on a tanker full of the stuff

i somehow use this one a lot

Does the one from Car Builder also mandate that you do not wash it in direct sunlight and does it come without crumple zones?

i am suddenly getting a very detailed idea of how these people behaved during the lockdowns

Wait, that deer population has been known to have CWD and they were still like "hey, i guess these are good to eat"? tf is wrong with carnists?

You can avoid pronouns entirely and just use the person's name or refer to them as "that person over there" or "the poster you are replying to" etc., but it's a lot easier when pronouns are provided. Most languages have these things for a reason.

ofc that should be an option, i'm friends with trans people irl that need this option because these people want to be adressed without third person pronouns, but to say that lack of options was the actual main concern in these struggle sessions is denying that we had a substantial number of transphobes from r/stupidpol in the community when we originally got kicked out of reddit, that they vocally opposed the trans inclusivity of this site, that we successfully purged them and that this was a good and important part of building the site culture.