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You want proof that Walter Kopp was a Nazi?

No I want proof that the CIA colluded with Nazis to spurn the Hungarian Revolt. If you could point me to the direct evidence of that. No circumstantial stuff. Just that the CIA and Nazis caused the Hungarian uprising, scholarly sourced. I'll wait

Oh shit. Gary does hold the power...

'Move fast and break stuff'

Shaking my SMH

I’m drawing parallels between the various efforts by western anti-communist forces during Operation Gladio, which showed up all across southern and western Europe from the end of WW2 to the fall of the USSR.

The 'Years of lead' did involve a pro-communist side, though, which is a typical thing to exclude.

Then you’ve never read a biography of Allen Dulles.

I havent. Point me to one written by a scholar of history and point me to the passages, please. Im not going to debate that McCarty era USA did anti-communist stuff, I want proof of your claim that it actively collaborated with nazis.

You can even see her naked ankle, that's victorian for full frontal nudity.

Not to be confused with EU-knits:

You have no power here, Gandalf the gray!

* Orson Welles angry clap.gif *

Go straight back to the term's root - the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the subsequent quashing by Khrushchev's armored cavalry - and what you're effectively advocating in defense of is a CIA/Nazi collaborative stay-behind network that ushered in the Years of Lead. Are we expected to show empathy for the Hungarian Rebels if they'd been bombing and butchering civilians a decade earlier without compunction?

You are conflating the resistance to the Russian backed Hungarian regime with the 'years of lead' in Italy, which are two entirely unrelated events.. also you call the uprising a CIA/Nazi collaborative.

I've never read anything from any scholar (holding a degree in history) that has used those terms in discussing the Hungarian uprising and frankly... It smacks a bit of:

reading the history from a different angle and viewing the revolutionary violence of a given period as social justice extracted by an empowered proletariat.

That's your quote on what tankie terrific is like.

I tried but then I took an arrow to the * everywhere *

You have no power here Gandalf the gray!

Due to solid research into late 90's coming of age comedies I must conclude that you're fucked.