It really is crazy they've gotten bold enough to try the play off "Nobody is entitled to a living wage and also if you don't make a living wage that's illegal"
The more depressing thing is the vast majority of Americans are so selfish and cruel they side with the government while being one medical procedure or missed paycheck away from homelessness.
It's really wild to see a bunch of people that theoretically understand and think with materialistic determination in mind to claim that they didn't do anything wrong by serving for years in the literal armed wing of American imperialism.
"Sure I was the literal triggerman for a genocidal empire and perpetuated a half dozen illegal wars for American hegemony but I'm on your side now, you can trust me."
We should be all set as long as somebody else doesn't swing through offering them a 14% loan on a camaro.
Saw a comment in the thread (which was heavily downvoted obviously) that I'm stealing
"You have to vote for biden or else Trump might bomb the rubble and mass graves"
Is their work facilitating the soldiers being able to murder people sooner?
If so than yes, they are more complicit than psychologists who don't get soldiers cleared to get back on the frontlines asap.
It is increasingly hilarious to watch you attempt to make this out to be a complicated moral issue.
Here's a handy flow chart.
Does their work enable current active duty service members to more quickly and easily kill innocent people?
Yes --> they are bad
No --> they are not bad
Hell, let's turn it around and go back to the current thread were in.
So does all this mean that actually you can't criticize the idf because everybody is equally culpable for what's going on in Gaza and the idf is going to be the vanguard of Palestinian liberation any day now?
Expecting the American MIC to be instramental to the socialist revolution in this country sure does feel an awful lot like when democrats keep convincing themselves lifelong republican removed like muller comey and garland are going to fight their battles for them and take down a sitting republican president.
Or like how they whitewashed Bush because he gave Michelle Obama a piece of candy one time.
It's going to be really funny to see dejoy and the concentration camps on the southern border suddenly be an issue again overnight after a precisely 4 year hiatus.
The posts on the protests are in every other subreddit where everybody agrees that the cops should be being more violent towards the protestors and also claiming the protestors aren't doing anything while they post on reddit.
There was a local thread from one of the universities and all thentop comments where "stidents" complaining the protedtors were selfish and ineffective because it was interrupting thier studies.
Saw one post that was basically "I hate the protestors because they caused me to lose a bunch of samples I needed for my masters theisis"
"Really, cus I walked around the campus all day yesterday and could get in anywhere I needed, they were just stopping cops"
"Nope I deff couldn't get in, somebody should really teach these spoiled brats a lesson"
Yup fully agreed.
Well except trying to lump in people who provide counseling after the fact that's a pretty obvious bullshit false equivalency but I suspect you know you were reaching for that example.
It's why when I graduated I took a a job designing water and wastewater systems for small communities instead of a job that paid three times as much where I'd design bombs or do that exact kind of logistics. Because I have a functioning set of morals and not facilitating the MIC was a priority to me.
This is why it's frustrating as somebody whonwas faced with the choice and actively worked to make choices to not be complicit in the imperial war machine pretty fucking annoying to have people insist there's no way it can be avoided.
Apply this same logic to the pretty much universally agreed on fact that nobody should support Biden.
If you can make excuses for the people who do the shooting, make the bullets, facilitate the logistics, or even interact with people in the military what's your problem with Biden? Probablly that he's the one causing all this to happen right? Same applies to everybody literally working every day to make it possible.
R/politicalhumor unironically had thisnpist today where it was the trolley problem but the democratic side was one person labeled Palestine and the republican side had like 4 or 5 people.
At least they've moved on from trying to say they aren't genocidal maniacs and are just tryng to brow beat other people into agreeing to also support genocide.
I mean the "I am not joking or being hyperbolic, I literally will never trust white people even if they're active in progressive orgs and I unironically passionately hate straight people" posts are deffinitly edgy but they're going out of their way to be pretty clear they aren't joking.
Fuck off with the "didn't see direct combat" line
You know what the ones who didn't see direct combat were doing?
Signing the papers that said the unarmed 13 year old who got canoe'd was deffinitly an enemy combatant and figuring out the logistics of how to get bullets from the factory to an innocent persons head halfway around the world as efficiently as possible.
It's sparkling oligarchy
I wish.
The people aren't even making the effort to seem good.
The literal current message of the democratic party is "fuck you were going to keep doing whatever the fuck we want. We know you don't like it but what are you going to do, let trump win?"
Trump is a massive asset for the democrats because they're literally using him as a gun to take their own voters hostage.