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    What… are we just a penguin and Apple Trees…

    For real, though, I wish Microsoft (mojang does…) cared enough to support Linux for BE.

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    [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 97 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I just want to mention that I hate that Microsoft seems to think that they own the term "Personal Computer".

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Was it Microsoft that "took it" though? I always thought it was Apple that started calling their machines Mac as opposed to PCs (the others) and the term just stuck to Microsoft because, of course, there are only two options /s

    If anything, I hate that Apple doesn't call their machines PCs, which they absolutely are.

    [–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

    They also don't call their phones... phones, or smartphones even, it's always iPhone.

    historically a "PC" is a machine compatible with the "IBM PC" and the only OS available for that was DOS or later Windows

    Of course then Unix-like operating systems started to become available for the same machines, and Apple switched to Intel processors for a while too.

    [–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

    The term β€œPC” is derived from the β€œIBM-compatible Personal Computer”, which basically meant it could run pc-dos and it’s bastard child ms-dos - you guessed it, made by microsoft. Apple computers and many others in those days did not run those shoddy dos (disk operating systems) things, but had real Operating Systems like MacOS, BeOS, Amiga Workbench etc.

    [–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There are tricks to launch the Android version on Linux, but Java edition is mostly better anyways

    [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

    Java for the win i say.

    [–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I didn't know this was a thing. Linux can run android apps?

    [–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

    Building a translation layer for Android applications is easier on Linux since their bases are similar. (Android is an operating system based on Linux)

    [–] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Java edition has always been superior, but only because it hasnt been bastardized by Microsoft. It's a shame the price you pay for that is no crossplatform support.

    [–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's a shame the price you pay for that is no crossplatform support.

    If you have a little bit of server management know-how, you can set up https://geysermc.org/, which allows for crossplay between bedrock and java on a java server.

    [–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

    You at least have crossplatform between Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android (with Pojav Launcher). So not so bad.

    "you can play on PC".... I know I shouldn't have bought a Linux microwave to play games....

    [–] Asudox@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Why not use the Java version? Bedrock sucks anyway. I use ATLauncher to launch the Java edition.

    [–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What's even good about Bedrock edition? Been playing since the 1.7.x days, and Java edition has been consistently superior in my view. If nothing else, it's better because the table with the floating book is called the Enchanting Table.

    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Bedrock has a few unique mechanics (large fish, potion cauldrons, etc.) but is also much more buggy. I've always liked JE more.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There's probably a mod for that...

    [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    Multiple, I think

    [–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

    Just play Java edition. It's superior, and does support crossplay, no matter what anyone tells you. Officially between Windows, Linux, and MacOS, natively on Android with Pojav Launcher, and with the geyserMC mod, to any device that runs bedrock edition.

    [–] valen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

    Take a look at !minetest@lemmy.ml. An open source version of minecraft.

    [–] Shareni@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

    The Extend in EEE doesn't mean they port Microsoft exclusives to other platforms

    [–] vox@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    why do you want to play the inferior bedrock version in the first place?
    it has missing features and the ones that do work are somewhat buggy.
    bedrock has better server netcode tho iirc.

    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

    Crossplay with console gamers. We played on Bedrock for a long time until we built the kid's first PC.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was in Java before, right? How come it doesn't run on linux anymore?

    CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

    It's not in the picture, but this is referring to the bedrock version. Officially "Minecraft" referrs to this edition.

    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

    They reimplemented it in C++, funnily enough to port it to more platforms (mobile and consoles).
    They do still also develop the Java edition. I don't think, they can afford the shitstorm to deprecate that, as their core fanbase is on that, with all the mods and community servers.

    [–] Crow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

    Check Out the PE (pocket edition) launcher. If you have a license on the Google play store at least. It's actually not half-bad, runs smoothly and has the regular amount of m&k as well as controller support

    [–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

    tbh it does say "for Windows"

    also couldn't some hacking with wine/proton make it run?

    [–] hallettj@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I'd like to be able to set my kids up with Bedrock because that's the version most other kids play, and it would be great for them to be able to play on servers together. I have run the Android version on Linux in the past using a community launcher, and it worked flawlessly with a mouse and keyboard. But I think there was an authentication change that prevents that from working anymore. It's very frustrating that they have a Linux version, but they just won't let us use it.

    [–] vox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    from my experience, most kids play java tho?

    mostly it's the only version that:

    1. takes 3 clicks to pirate (not everyone does that, but this is a contributing factor)
    2. available on pc

    bedrock is mostly used by mobile (android/ios) players, which makes up a rather small market share

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

    Not if they play on switch, xbox or phone

    [–] hallettj@leminal.space 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    To clarify, the kids that my kids meet at school who want to play Minecraft with them almost exclusively play Bedrock, often on ipads.

    One of these days I may get around to trying running a server with GeyserMC which purportedly extends a Java server to let Bedrock users connect.

    [–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

    It's really not that difficult, you could do it today.

    [–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago
    [–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

    I forget what the launcher is called, but for BE I had really good luck with one of the ones you can find on Lutris via the search function

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Lol i was in same boat because I have BE for free from beta days and needed it only to test for GeyserMC clients on my server.

    Was too lazy to go android route so I just used my laptop which still had dual boot windows.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)