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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it's that hard to figure out? I think Macron believed he was engaged in legitimate diplomacy and was assuming that Russia was acting in good faith.

Once he figured out that the Russians were just utilizing peace talks to stall western support, and that he'd been played...... I don't have a hard time seeing him taking it personally. Nobody in Europe wants to be remembered as the modern Neville Chamberlain.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is probably also seeing this as an opportunity to build the EU level military he has been pushing for.

With a less present USA in Europe, a large part of the burden to supply higher level military competencies is going to fall onto France as France is really the only country with both the size and long term willingness to pay for this. It is better to defray the costs across the whole union than pay for it itself.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Long time willingness... Unless LePen is elects and starts arming Russia!

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Even worse than Chamberlain actually, declassified docs showed that he knew damn well it was a farce but played it up anyways for the sake of buying time for France and Britain to rearm without public scrutiny for risking another great war.

The reason it still ended badly is that time is a resource bought for both sides and the axis were far less concerned about public scrutiny over their own rearmament.

[–] AnomalousBit@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t hawks make more of an AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sound? Seems appropriate under the circumstances

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That American "screaming eagle" sound is actually made by a hawk.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I thought it was made by a lunatic in a bucket helmet wielding a bazooka and a shovel

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that’s what I thought tbh