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No 'scientific report' that I can find. Unless I missed something, that means this doesn't have a real source other than more hearsay...
Also I don't have a case to say that site is misinformation, but it doesn't have any credibility either. Just another opinion site posturing as journalism.
No ‘scientific report’ that I can find. Unless I missed something, that means this doesn’t have a real source other than more hearsay…
You are absolutely correct. This alleged report is not in the public domain. Here is a timestamp where this report is discussed. It was allegedly provided to George Knapp to be submitted into the record at the hearing. I'll leave it up to you to ultimately form your judgments on this.
Also I don’t have a case to say that site is misinformation, but it doesn’t have any credibility either. Just another opinion site posturing as journalism.
Personally, based on what I've read, I don't consider it to be misinformation. What he has generally reported aligns with the accounts of others, such as Ross, Jeremy, George, and Michael Shellenberger, among others. He asserts that he has his own sources, and I believe he shares some sources with the aforementioned individuals.
There was an instance where he reported an alleged UAP sighting. The Black Vault was able to request more information in regards to this sighting through FOIA. This led to a judgement that the sighting was most likely flares. Chris appropriately corrected his report, showing the new evidence released through FOIA, indicating it was likely a military exercise involving flares.
With a topic that involves so much hearsay and minimal evidence in the public domain, all we can do is listen to individuals who have more access to information than we do and make our own judgement calls on whether we believe them or not. I understand that every individual will require different pieces of information to satisfy their definition of proof.
Yeah I don't mean to accuse them of misinformation. Only pointing out that the website has no reputation and no obligation to honesty.
And I refuse to put much thought in to some guy who claims to know a guy who said there's a 'super sciencey official report' that says they have submarines too. That's not to say they're lies, either. Just that I don't care until I see something which consists of real evidence, and even then I struggle to see how this is relevant on such a high level.
Your stance is perfectly reasonable and rational. When I post these articles, my aim is not to convince anyone of anything, especially without hard proof, but merely to share the current information that's available. The more eyes on something, the greater chance there is at finding evidence or holes in a given statement or argument. I'm hopeful that we'll start seeing some definitive evidence one way or the other sometime soon.
I'm also grateful for skeptics who participate here and help facilitate discussion. Personally, I don't feel any shame in being ignorant or wrong about a given subject. As long as I can adjust my stance given new information, I'm content. The truth is what matters to me in regards to this topic, and I believe that given enough time, the truth will always prevail.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter.
Just that I don’t care until I see something which consists of real evidence
I share a lot of your sentiment, yet I think it's worth having "recognized" these types of claims. If there's a situation later on that would support such claims, just the time marker on who knew what at what time tells a lot about connections.
If they haven't destroyed us by now, after what they've seen these past 20 years, then we have nothing to worry about.
Maybe they know we're on a path to destruction and figured they'll just wait us out.
Similarly, if we are speculating here, like any parent, one needs to let their children make their own mistakes and figure things out for themselves. They can't be handheld throughout their life and provided with all the answers.
Granted, if all of this is true and there is a Non-Human Intelligence, they are likely so far advanced that it's impossible for us to speculate on their motives. We are viewing things through a human lens.
Humans mostly don't care about rats until they're a nuisance, do we have any indications that there's not any thresholds we just haven't stepped over yet?
I believe the docking with a maneuverable object is new information. Maybe that '4-chan leaker' was on to something.
In the hearing it was stated from the eyewitness that they had seen white surf on calm waters implying that there was something the object they could see was interacting with. I think they did see something going on, I just don't think there's hard evidence in the public yet to be clear of anything outside of "something".
Yes, I recall that information from the testimony, as well as from previous interviews Commander Fravor has given.
Here is a timestamp for the latest episode of the Weaponized podcast. In it, Jeremy, George, Ross, and Bryce discuss an additional 144-page document that someone provided to George for inclusion in the congressional record.
Allegedly, this document contains a scientific analysis of the tic-tac event. It serves as the source of information suggesting that this object was docking with something under the sea. I'm assuming this document refers to underwater sensor data that provides evidence to substantiate this claim.
Of course, all of this is hearsay. But at this point, I feel that George has earned my trust. He has consistently proven to be reliable and transparent.
During the hearing, I'm pretty sure that Fravor said, under oath, "coming down from space" in a passing remark. I don't have a time stamp. Maybe I am just not up on this enough but that was new info for (I also have a bad memory and haven't had time to review his previous statements).
You're correct. Here is Fravor's opening statement. He says this about a minute into his opening statement.
The "Factory craft" claim is an interesting one, but it seems somewhat strange that it's one of the things that has been kept completely under wraps until it was leaked on 4chan - Very much in contrast to most other UFO "revelations" now a days, which seems more like confirmations of long-standing rumours.
But then again I'm not dismissing the claim about the large UFO that was too big to move so they built on top of it and I'm not dismissing the Bermuda craft. But not dismissing something is different from assuming it to be so.
I agree. I'm not endorsing the claim in any way; I'm simply enjoying the speculation and the parallels. I enjoy thought experiments, no matter how ridiculous they may initially sound.