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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] fubo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This post was reported four times as pseudoscience and misinformation.

Currently this community doesn't have any rules against posting pseudoscience and misinformation for discussion.

Also, it seems like the discussion here has focused on exactly why this is pseudoscience and misinformation, with lots of educational links about how microwave cooking actually works.

So this stays up for now. Be nice, folks.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This post was reported four times as pseudoscience and misinformation.

Maybe the community is telling you something?

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The title is dumb and misleading, but I don't doubt that the microwave process does degrade the quality of the food. But that depends on the food itself, the microwave isn't killing you...

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We should always doubt until we see evidence.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/microwave-ovens-and-health#nutrients

"Every form of cooking reduces the nutrient value of food.

The main contributing factors are temperature, cooking time, and method. During boiling, water-soluble nutrients may leak out of the food.

As far as microwaves go, cooking times are generally short, and the temperature is low. Plus, the food is usually not boiled.

For this reason, you would expect microwave ovens to retain more nutrients than methods like frying and boiling.

According to two reviews, microwaving does not reduce nutrient value more than other cooking methods"

[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey OP, if you’re feeling attacked maybe try to engage some critical thinking skills and the scientific method. There’s decades of established research and evidence that you can work on reproducing and proving it wrong. That’s the beauty of open information and the scientific method. I’m sure there’s an amazing opportunity for anyone who is able to show that decades of peer reviewed research is wrong.

[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Understood, however microwaves being healthy or not is independent of studies (implying studies could be wrong and have been at times)

[–] Hizeh@hizeh.com 8 points 2 years ago

Independent of studies? Are you suggesting the claims are unverifiable by experiment?

If that's the case, then claim whatever you want.

Commenter here made the best argument IMO. If you truly believe this pseudoscience bullshit, then you have fantastic opportunity in front of you to prove your claims and overturn decades of scientific understanding regarding the safety of microwaves. You could be famous.

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago

Unicorns are real. Studies saying otherwise could be wrong and have been at times.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

OP is right, that's why I cook everything in my anti-vax homeopathic oven. No 5G is getting in my lasagna 🤡

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I have bad news for you, your lasagne contains dihydrogen monoxide, it can kill you! You are 100% going to die.

[–] chairman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You are absolutely correct. Research shows that 100% of people who died in the past 500 years has dihydrogen monoxide in their body!!!!!

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Oh no! Can I have some thoughts and prayers? 🥺

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Wait until you learn about how much β-D-fructofuranosyl α-D-glucopyranoside there is in things you eat regularly. That shit will kill you.

[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

"the way nature intended"

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

mediabiasfactcheck.com/medical-daily/

Bias Rating: PSEUDOSCIENCE
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

[–] kindenough@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I just checked another site posted here as a source of 'facts'

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-society/

[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is no argument against the claims made in the article or other articles

[–] barttier@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"The eight participants[...]"

No.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Including the not so scientific researcher lol

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Give it another day or two and OP is going to be posting stupid shit about UFOs, flat earth or MAGA nonsense.

[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

UFOs

a prevailing view is that aliens are demons and "UFOs" are a kind of fakery to distract people

flat earth

many people have become skeptical about the shape of the earth due to proven fakes about space and unanswered questions about space-related topics, for example popular pictures of the earth were not "real" pictures but composites:

https://qz.com/192700/the-guy-who-created-iphones-earth-image-explains-why-he-needed-to-fake-it

we also don't know what gravity is (just search "we don't know what gravity is" for a bunch of articles)

MAGA

if only we could break the uniparty...

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Shut the fuck up. No one wants to hear from you.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You know what is actually bad for your health?

Living.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

this is so dumb

cooking food increases caloric intake. you absolutely get more nutrients from cooked food that is why we cooked food and why we have big brain

[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

you absolutely get more nutrients from cooked food

Sure, this is just questioning if it is healthy or safe to cook the food with a microwave, versus stovetop or a grill

[–] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess the question would be, could you cook food with radioactive material, versus cooking simply with fire? Or stovetop versus charcoal contaminants

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago

radioactive material is a loaded word here as heating most things causes them to release infrared radiation which we use to cook often

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

That is the biggest pile of bullshit nothingburger I've seen on lemmy. Utter trash article full of outright falsehoods, half truths, and horrible misunderstanding of things.

Like, they went in about the decrease in b vitamins in raw beef and pork after heating. Milk too, but you can drink milk raw safely. Of course the fucking b vitamins are decreased when heated. Good luck with your inevitable tapeworm, e-coli, and/or salmonella infections from that nice, healthy meat.

And that's the least empty bit in the whole thing

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Well, if people only live of typical microwave food, they do live unhealthy. I don't think this would be news for anyone.

For anyone else who uses a microwave e.g. to heat a cup of milk, this is most likely a non-issue.