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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Elon Musk loves to speak confidently about shit he knows nothing about. This leads to him being a confident speaker on every topic... I just wish we could figure out a way to shut him up.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The rockets are fine. SpaceX has a team specifically designed to distract Musk and keep him away from the actual work on the rockets. Tesla didn't have that though. That's how we ended up with that lame presentation with the weird "S3XY" acromin. That was really the point I realized that he was just an idiot frat boy with too much money. He really is his own worst enemy.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

What's your source on the spacex team distracting him? I can't find anything supporting that. I do find some interviews from anonymous employees saying it's calmer now that he's so focused on twitter.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the thing about spacex is everything they do is because of nasa and government.

the only thing spacex has going for it is the fact that they can spend a billion dollars exploding a rocket five times before it slightly works the sixth whereas the government can't do that.

[–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone who does know about this field, and absolute despise Musk, that's not quite true. SpaceX is very successful thanks to help from the US government, and despite the influence of Musk, but also because they are a team of very competent people who have actually innovated and pushed the boundaries of launch vehicles. To say they have nothing going for them and are being propped up by the government is not at all accurate, and they have been much more succesful than traditional government contractors.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To say they have nothing going for them and are being propped up by the government is not at all accurate

That isn't what they're saying though, is it? They're saying that SpaceX has the ability to fail more than NASA, because they're not a government organization funded solely by taxes.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Admittedly I think the biggest failures that hurt NASA were incidents when people, not rockets, blew up. It'll be interesting to see if things change if/when there is a death from a SpaceX rocket.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People die in work related incidents all the time. The only thing different about deaths from NASA incidents is that they are (usually) spectacular incidents (like massive explosions or cabin fires…not good things, just stunning) and high-profile.

SpaceX does well because they basically ignore Elon.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Maybe I'm out of the loop - what's he been saying about software?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One example that stuck with me is that he said some shit along the lines of 80% of Twitter's microservices being superfluous and he'll be shutting them off.

Yes, the dev teams just spent 4/5 of their time building shit no one asked for. It just annoys me so much, because anyone with basic reasoning should be able to work out that this cannot possibly be the case, but it's easy to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Well, except that many, many Twitter outages followed.

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

I've heard horror stories on the programming subreddits of incompetent managers that require their employees to write X new lines of code per week. Those code bases probably could have huge chunks taken off.

Clearly that hasn't happened here

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, except that many, many Twitter outages followed.

Yeah. As a software dev, it was pretty awkward explaining this to colleagues who rely on Twitter/X.

"It sounds like you think Twitter is a software company and that Elon is utterly unqualified to run a software company. That can't possibly be true, right?"

...Then we end up doing the "Concerned Padme" meme...

[–] flynnguy@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He asked employees to print out their code so he could review it.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He also seems to have the idea that the best developer is the one who produces the most code. That shows a pretty major lack of understanding of how software development works. Sometimes the best day is when you produce negative amounts of code.

[–] Squibbles@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

When he took over twitter there was a bunch of stuff he was spouting about things like Twitter's stack needing a full rewrite and such. Going so far as to fire the engineer that challenged him on it during a live spaces thing if I recall correctly.

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This post’s image man

It’s not that hard(tm)

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh. This post's image has him talking types in January and the "obligatory" image above has someone saying he's been talking software in December, so I thought maybe Musk has been spewing about software for a few weeks or something.

[–] Squibbles@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

December from '22 not '23. The image was from a few months after he took over twitter and was still going on about that stuff and how it was doing all these useless things that needed to be removed or rewritten. I just remembered another one about how he was going on about a single request to twitter causing thousands of RPCs or something? I think that's not really unheard of in a microservices infrastructure and it's not like they'd be synchronous. There's probably tons of calls that go to things like tracking, analytics, or cross DC sharing I would imagine for such a large and high volume service like twitter.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Twitter is a software, he's been saying stupid stuff about how it works for the last year+

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago

He doesn't notice he's the Duning-Kruger effect personified.

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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that's what we mean by untyped languages. And as stated both have their merits and their faults.

Elon doesn't know what the words mean and just chimes in with his AI future BS.

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes the compiler/interpreter can figure it out on the fly, that's what we mean by untyped languages.

Are there untyped languages? You probably meant 'dynamically typed languages'.

But even statically typed languages can figure out most types for you from the context - it's called 'type inference'.

[–] nul@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Most of my code is untyped. First I type it, then I realize it's all wrong and use backspace to untype it.

[–] asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember when people were calling this dummy the "real life Tony Stark"? Lol.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

its amazing how elon was once so milquetoast and inoffensive that he was a guest on the big bang theory and then he was like you know whats good? nazis.

[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Press X (formerly Twitter) to Doubt

[–] sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago

Fuck me, that's good. I noticed the X after my first laugh attack and had a second one. Fuck you dude, my ribs hurt.

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[–] HairHeel@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tend to think people shit on Musk more than they should, but holy shit does it bug me when a CEO talks about engineering problems with such bravado.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 years ago

He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.

Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.

Rod Hilton about Elon Musk.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I constantly feel the need to argue with this dumb fuck and his 99% wrong opinions. I usually have to take a step back, remember it's not worth it, and then move on. It would be a great help if I had a Firefox add-on that precedes all of musk's tweets with "retard weighing in: ", just as a reminder that he's also allowed a point of view, despite his mental issues.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you‘re only using the r-bomb and „mental issues“ in a joking way but its kind of not funny.

Musk is a spoiled, unempathetic, overhyped idiot who claims to be autistic… perfect example that autistic people can be cretins as well.

But a lot of autistic people are getting called the r-word and its not ok. Mental (health) issues are not a stigma. They are okay and normal. Being an asshole isnt normal or okay though.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de -1 points 2 years ago

Yesh kinda weird how ok a lot of the users here are with using the r-word slur.