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Since capicucks keep saying “no capitalism means no iPhone” so much, it makes me wonder how true is their argument in a post-capitalist world (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml to c/thedeprogram@lemmygrad.ml

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Apple does have a very anti-cooperative business practices that which goes against the spirit of cooperation of communism. Would a company like Apple event exist in a post-capitalist world?

By “a company like Apple”, I mean a company that it is extremely secretive, doesnt open source anything and doesnt cooperate with any other companies, and tries to make everything proprietary and have closed ecosystems.

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[–] hongdao@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think a modern socialist planned economy fit for our situation would come out with a very pemanent, modular, and repairable cell phone. It would resemble an Apple product in no way, making use of open source hardware and software and with an ideological commitment against planned obsolescence.

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a dream. ❤️

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Even if true, which it fucking isn't, is that human misery worth an iphone? That being the argument reveals so much.

[–] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Yep. I use a droid, why would I care about no iPhone?

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

DPRK has internally developed smartphones (possibly in collaboration with China) that work just fine, so...

Or do they mean that the invention of smartphones requires capitalism? Also unlikely, plenty of innovation in technology comes from socialist countries. Including the original cell phone.