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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do people really not remember that it was also boomers protesting vietnam and working in the civil rights movement? Or that plenty of people born after that voted for trump, and will again?

Three intergenerational fake fight is dumb, and it prevents any real attempt at unification to fight against a real enemy: fascism.

Fucking idiots, the whole fucking human race.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The counter culture was called a counter culture because it was a minority. Even of the boomers.

The intergenerational fight is dumb, but if you're talking generalisation and joining in, most boomers weren't hippies.

They conformed and are still complaining about those who don't conform. Just as they complained about hippies then they complain about zoomers now.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wasn't exclusively talking about hippies, there were other counter culture groups and movements.

But the thing I think you missed is that even if most baby boomers weren't hippies and protesters, all of the hippies and protesters were boomers.

It isn't a generational issue at all, it's a human issue, where you have people that fall into loose groupings of motivations and thinking, which seem to be either "nature", or carried across generations over time. Some people, likely the majority, will be the conformists, and the rest fall into varying degrees of heresy.

There are plenty of baby boomers and later generations (us gen x old fucks are old fucks now too) that don't sit around bitching about "kids today".

Some of the baby boomer resistance got worn out and stopped fighting to some degree, but that's totally different than the entire generation just becoming conformist.

Truth? People are just idiots in general, and every generation has them. But until you spend time really hanging around a given generation, you only see and hear the loudest of them. I spent two decades of my life taking care of the elderly and dying. You ended up running into a big cross section of baby boomers and older generations doing that during the nineties and early noughts.

That's part of the problem. Most of us never get a chance to get paid to sit and listen to someone. We only hear the tiniest sliver of a generation. Even with my hundreds of patients to listen to, that's still a tiny sliver, it's just bigger than most people get. All that usually happens is you get access to family and whoever is in the news/talk show circuit. Online, you tend to only get the extreme ends of things being the loudest.

It isn't a generation issue at all.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

When a large generation is voting to block progressive change it is a generational issue on the macro scale.

I am fully on board with the idea that shouldn't lead to discrimination on age, shouldn't lead to assuming all boomers are the problem.

Nor that all those younger are progressive.

But politically it is a generational issue. When talking about politics it is legitimate to talk about demographics and voting blocks and how we might get them on side. Or at least prevent them doing further damage.

Obviously my side is primarily the "stop wrecking the planet" side with a healthy dose of "poverty and homelessness are a stain on any developed nation". So boomers voting the way they do is a problem and has been for some time.

They are yet to stop voting in people who make the world worse. That generation is still a problem. It has been since the 70s.

Either we get enough of that generation to change direction or, more likely, we have to out vote them.

[–] JohnDoe@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 year ago

wait, it's like not a generational issue, and isn't using generation as a shorthand for specific demographics still useful in everyday language? how else would you refer to such a group of individuals, i'm drawing blanks.

[–] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, it was still the WW2 generation that fought for Civil rights. The Boomers were in elementary school in the 50s and only the oldest could even vote in 1963, 1964, and 1968.

But once all the Boomers could vote, who got elected? Reagan. So fuck them.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't we supposed to want a world where our children's generation don't have to do that?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being “toughened up” is far more important than being a happy, well adjusted, compassionate person.

…for the conservative mindset. It’s like making things worse for other people, even if it hurts you just a little bit, is worth it because it still elevates your position relative to theirs.

Though they do often shoot to the other side of the spectrum, sheltering kids from learning about important facets of the real world at an appropriate age. Maybe for religious reasons.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finding happiness within yourself by realizing your ideal sense of self goes against everything conservatives believe. They think life is about hatred, and winning at all costs.

You can't just be happy and content with who you are, you have to chase happiness at the end of a crucifix, gun, and credit card. Pick your poison so long as you're spending and supporting division. Anything else would collapse their true religion of capitalism.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once I first read about the three poisons in Buddhism (essentially hatred, greed, and delusion) it seemed so simple and obvious. Then of course I noticed those obviously bad things in every shitty news story about the world.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago

Suggest any reading material? Sounds interesting