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How A Small Video Game Narrative Studio Wound Up At The Heart Of A Massive, Anti-Woke Conspiracy Theory - Aftermath (aftermath.site)

submitted 1 year ago by Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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Sweet Baby Inc doesn't even remotely do what many think it does, but on the modern internet, that doesn't matter

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Funny how all the mainstream gaming media (+ this 2-paragraphs long blog post [?]) only now decided to cover this story, when the curator list on steam exceded 200.000 subscribers and so SBI run to Kotaku to do damage control, and these mainstream media are only quoting PR slogans from SBI website, or interviews with SBI from fucking Kotaku, or try to ridicule the whole idea by calling it conspiracy theories, or calling hundreds of thousands of players haters, white misogynist, racists and all the usual stuff, but none of these mainstream media actually reported on this story in depth, show what SBI management have been actually saying before all of this came to light, what their founder and employee have been tweeting (tweets now conviniently hidden or deleted) or how THEY (yes, they - Sweet Baby Inc) have been trying to weaponize their followers to ban not only the curator's list on steam (even while publicly admitting knowing it doesn't break any steam rules) but also trying to ban the list creator's account (in spite "because he loves his account so much").

I know lemmy is not a place to argue such stuff because it seems even woker than reddit and everyone is in this little bubble, but if you're curious then look up those who's been covering this subject from the beginning, for example:

https://thatparkplace.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSJPFQdZwrOutnmSFYtbstA

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQeRaTukNYft1_6AZPACnog

Bottom line is - I can decide for myself what to spend my money on, thank you very much.

[–] Grain9325@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't forget the employee who led a harassment campaign against the curator, came back from Twitter suspension just to disrespect Akira Toriyama's legacy.

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The complete lack of a period makes your comment really hard to understand

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Fair point, I wrote it on my phone lying in bed in the morning, didn't think it would be this long.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

show what SBI management have been actually saying before all of this came to light, what their founder and employee have been tweeting

And you don't show that either. As someone who is trying to understand the issue people have with SBI, can you show something the founder / employees have actually said? I'm not going to search through a random webpage / Youtube page to see if they actually have something relevant.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They locked their twitter account. So internet archive is your friend.

The guy below me seems quite slow. I'm not OP.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are trying to convince people that they said inappropriate things. Again, I am not going to go somewhere to do your job for you and dig through some random archives in case there might be something relevant. Especially if I think you're making it up.

Internet archive is your friend, if it's as easy to find as you claim then it would make your arguments significantly more persuasive if you just included a direct link to an archive of whatever it is you are concerned about.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have better things to do fortunately. It's pretty clear from other posts that you already made up your mind. So there's no use. We can end the conversation here.

Also I'm not trying to convince anyone. I just wanted to help you.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not trying to convince anyone. I just wanted to help you.

Pro tip: dO yOuR rEsEaRcH!!1! Has never convinced or helped anyone.

I am willing to have my mind changed if someone were to actually show me any evidence of SBI being bad for some reason. The Steam group says nothing other than "SBI worked on these games," implying they are bad but not even making the step to say why. When I try to ask people why I should care if SBI is involved I get:

"I don't have to explain myself" which is true, but does nothing to discredit the claims of bigotry.
"SBI is woke" which we all know is the dog whistle of the bigot, and
"Do your own research" which is the desperate cry of people who believe things without evidence or sources.

Showing me one of these "terrible" tweets by SBI would sure shut me up if it was anywhere near as terrible as claimed.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear people don't understand the burden of proof and you're one of them

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you reference how exactly I hold the burden? Did I state anything that I have to back up? I only said their twitter is locked. I never said anything else. Looks like the room iq is quite low here.

For the people downvoting. I'm not op. I never claimed anything.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you reference how exactly they said you hold the burden? The only said you don't understand burden of proof, (due to your statements implying that the person making bold claims doesn't need to provide any evidence of those claims.) They never said anything else.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I swear people don't understand the burden of proof and you're one of them

Lmao. I'm losing braincells here lol. Where did I say or imply "the person making bold claims doesn't need to provide any evidence of those claims".

My only intention was to help you find those tweets if you were interested. Some of you behave so chronically online. Get a life.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I say or imply "the person making bold claims doesn't need to provide any evidence of those claims".

Right here:

They locked their twitter account. So internet archive is your friend.

OP made them vaguest of all claims ("SBI leadership said awful things") and I simply asked them for specifics and a link. You know, to "provide any evidence for those claims."
Your reply to me was basically "look it up yourself", which is not how the burden of proof works.

Lmao. I'm losing braincells here lol.

Some of you behave so chronically online. Get a life.

It's always projection...

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How did I imply it? Can you also reference where I refer to OP. I replied cause op's comment was posted 2 days ago and it was clear they weren't going to reply.

This is just a misunderstanding in my opinion. So let me make it clear that I'm not on op's side. I don't care if sweet abby inc is in a game I play. I do care about Kotaku tho. I have a hard time believing their stories.

I only called you chronically online because you have at least 50 comments on this topic in 2 days.

So I'll end the conversation here. Idk why it was even dragged on this long.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I only called you chronically online because you have at least 50 comments on this topic in 2 days.

I only called you chronically online because you're laughing like a lunatic every other sentence, and apparently going into my profile and counting each individual comment I've made on a given topic. That's not the behaviour of someone who touches grass.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not what chronically online means. It's the internet , people say "LMAO" a lot. Scrolling a profile for 5 sec thread is not that hard and 50 is a guess. You seem quite troubled using the internet. You don't need to take everything here to face value. I get the feeling that you don't know when to stop so I'm just gonna block you for now.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get the feeling that you don’t know when to stop

Says the person who's being going at this just as long and needs to announce his leaving, twice, instead of just leaving.

[–] Amphobet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (16 children)

What does "woke" mean?

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

when the curator list on steam exceded 200.000 subscribers

They have a discord too.

These are the same people who say things like "I don't care if someone's gay, just don't make it your entire personality." Meanwhile I don't know what the fuck these people talk about in a "SBI worked on these 16 games" Discord group.

Oh, and apparently they had to delete every post in their discussion forums and lock them to make sure they didn't break Steam's rules. Because that's a sign of a group of reasonable people...

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

It's not a story when it's a couple of conspiracy theorists making horrifically inaccurate deductions. It's a story when it's hundreds of thousands of people led on by a bunch of horse shit.

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[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

based streisand effect

[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go woke go broke. And by woke I mean racist.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Woke is anti racist, dingaling. But you knew that.

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination"

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination

"The Paradox of Tolerance" is easily solved if you stop thinking of Tolerance as an imperative, and instead as a social contract. Those who do not abide by the social contract of Tolerance are not protected by it.

Therefore Racists, the anti-tolerant, will not be tolerated.

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you implying "anti racist discrimination" is justified by your quote? I agree with your quote, but it is not supportive of Kendi's quote in the slightest. To discriminate is to "unjustly treat categories of people", so if someone is acting racist and you don't tolerate them, that is not discrimination at all because you are judging them for their actions, not their looks.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

so if someone is acting racist and you don't tolerate them, that is not discrimination at all because you are judging them for their actions, not their looks.

So what is the difference between that and "anti-racist discrimination"?

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[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Sweet baby shit can suck it.

[–] beaxingu@kbin.run 0 points 1 year ago

shows how game journalism is shit and there as useless as sweet baby they deserve each other.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, that guy really knows how to write interesting articles. Love his work!

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you the author?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gee, I'm sorry for my outburst. I just felt that something more than an upvote was required.
But don't let me shine on your piss parade, by all means.

I'm just happy to read a fairly in depth article about yet another of your over-the-pond silliness. So much time for rage, I don't get it.

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