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[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The invasion of China by the Japanese was a liberatory war. The black plague of freedom and the bayonet blade of self determination :)

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guy who gets his worldview from random twitter posts.

Im from Idaho but im now a Japanese Ultra-Nationalist grillman

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a person whose support of Palestine has led them to embrace Wang Jingwei thought, and that is beautiful in its stupidity.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

I love how twitter has people whose ideology is basically randomly generated.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's something to the argument that the Pacifc war was one imperial power clapping back against another for stepping on their turf.

...therefore, defect to imperial Japan and do atrocities with them instead?? jesse-wtf This is just the dumbest "America is bad therefor the opposite of America is good" kind of take. That heuristic is a decent starting point, but you do have to use your brain a little bit.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

There really is a reason most people say anti Americanism is correct 99.999999999% of the time. This is that .000000001 time.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

genociding chinese people = liberatory war

picard

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they meant the Chinese were fighting a war for National Liberation but, maybe that's too generous given the rest of the take lol.

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looking at more of their responses. You're right, but they still think you should defect to fight for japan https://nitter.poast.org/AshlarRob/status/1765738502203842822#m

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Which is still dumb af

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

The fedposting is getting lazier

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago
[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, that was what W.E.B. du Bois unironically thought leading up to and during WWII. In general, there was a current of Black thought during the early 1900s who saw Japanese imperialists as a lesser evil against Western imperialists and that they should critically support Japanese imperialism against Western imperialism. I think Gerald Horne even wrote a book about this phenomenon.

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is a pretty distinct difference between Du Bois' naive embrace of the Japanese narrative, and a person now with full knowledge of Japanese war crimes and the acknowledgement that Japan was a fascist state, discussing defecting to participate in WW2 on the side of the axis. Both aren't good, but one is manifestly worse.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Bait? Or the worst take ever?

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago
[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

geordi-no Defecting to the IJA to fight the US

geordi-yes Wiping out the entire military command of both sides