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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Milwaukee for battery

DeWalt for corded

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 years ago

I can't even recommend DeWalts corded stuff anymore. In the last few years their warranty service has gone from "It broke and you don't have a receipt? Serial number checks out, we'll send you a new one." to "It broke 3 months into a year warranty and you do have all the receipts? Well, send it in to one of our sketchy third party repair centers for a quote."

Screw that, I'll just buy another off amazon and return the broke one for far less hassle. And I'll buy a different brand next time.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Milwaukee has an incredible catalog of cordless stuff. As a Makita, I sometimes get jealous.

I prefer Bosch for corded, but since it's not an ecosystem, Im not brand loyal there.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago

Makita has great corded too so at least you can stay teal for both battery and corded!

Agree when it comes to ecosystems im not tied to dewalt for corded, I have a Ryobi hammer drill because it does what I need.

The only real complaint I have with Milwaukee is that the 12v and 18v are not able to share equipment. I love the 12v gear for being light weight and powerful, but sometimes the tool I need uses the 18v batteries :(

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

thankfully I dont need powder tools for anything any more.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

It's the battery system that locks you in. I have mostly DeWilt cordless tools and they are totally fine for a home jobber that I am. I do also own some Milwaukee and some Makita.

If I were to re-buy all my cordless tools, maybe I'd go with Makita, but there are some Milwaukee tools I do like as well.

Even so, these tools are not as different from each other as they used to be. DeWalt/Milwaukee/Ryobi and others have been bought out by VCCs and are made in the same factories now.

Lately I look at Festool products b/c I see my youtoobers using them. I fear they are too costly for the likes of a home user like me.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Venture Capitalism is one of my least favorite flavors of capitalism, I don’t even like the original

[–] SpeakinTelnet@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Festools are OK but they are not worth it IMHO. We used to say it's the tools for those who buy a 5000$ bike before knowing how to ride.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I delayed buying a decent drill/driver for a goddamn decade because I was paralyzed with indecision about which battery system to get locked into.

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[–] reflectedodds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't buy cordless anymore. If I can have a wire I get it, it's cheaper, and I've had batteries die in the middle of the job way too many times. And I've had batteries just break/stop charging. And these batteries cost almost as much as the tools themselves if you have to buy one by itself.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

VCCs are why the industry has gone so hard into the battery craze. Iterative ongoing sales. Should make a skeptic out of anyone.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can get battery converters

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, have one for the older drill to convert to the newer battery.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was talking about Dewalt batteries to Milwaukee battery converter

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ah, didn’t know that. Thanks for the tip!

[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Where’s the Fein Fein gang at? (Had to generate the image with AI so don’t look too closely at it, there are some inventive multi-tools combinations…).

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Holy crap this is actually a good AI image. These a subtly scary as fuck!

I love the power drillsaw and the handle to nothing

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Pity the Kobalt dads.

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Ah, the neighbor starter kits

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Squeezer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

They run Gringotts

[–] HUMAN_TRASH@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Milwaukee #1

[–] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just got my first set, Porter Cable, I've had their 1/2" drive impact for a few years for working on my car with, never had an issue so I bought the set.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mind asking Judy if it was worth buying the tools used?

[–] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Wow I missed that typo, just*

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Makita gang

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I can tell when a post comes from reddit because when I read the punchline I want to die.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Team no battery. Won't get sucked into that mild convenience crack. The batteries cost a boatload and die after one or two years. You know it is a scam if the batteries are all proprietary.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You must not make money with your tools.

Having to deal with an extension cord run up 35ft of scaffolding, not having power without a generator, having to run an extension cord through an attic or crawlspace, worrying about blowing a fuse because you are running a hammer drill and a vacuum, or dragging a cord around while doing anything sucks.

Being tied to a proprietary battery system only sucks if you need a tool that your chosen brand doesn't offer. The price of having to buy enough batteries to get through the day does suck, but the convenience and time-saving makes it easier to tolerate.

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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My Ryobi battery is fine after many years. I actually have a drill + battery from before they started the ONE+ thing. Works fine. And that's why I stuck with them when buying an impact driver, circular saw and band saw (which do require a ONE+ but I make do with 1).

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[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's such a bullshit though. It's all 18650's on the inside, and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to just swap them out. It's just they are dangerous if shorted (but not as dangerous as powertools), and the actual cell manufacturers just want to shift liability on the end-user device manufacturers, so they won't officially sell them to you. And the latter of course love this because it makes it easy to vendor-lock you in.

Solution - buy batteries off aliexpress and the likes. I'm pretty sure the Chinese folk have it all figured out a long time ago, probably even have the adapters for every brand. Alternative, take dead batteries to your local electronics repair shop, they are likely to be able to perform the swap. Disclaimer: I'm not a handyman, this is not a legal advice or whatever, just chiming in from a field with similar issues.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to be that way, then there was a holiday sale for my brand (one drill, one screwdriver with ratcheting). The big trick to batteries is storing them indoors. Yes, it's a bigger PITA, but I've been thoroughly converted. 3 years running and my batteries and tools are still going strong.

Don't get me wrong, I still buy corded for saws-all and stuff like that, but on drill/screw driver, battery works for 98% of all applications (hammer drilling cement being the rare exception).

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I stored them indoors. Not for me.

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[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m curious if anyone here has tried out the Flex tools at Lowes? I keep seeing them there and it feels like someone must be buying them.

[–] floral_toxicity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Check out the torque test channel on YouTube.

[–] webhead@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Team Rigid for the warranty and frequent clearance at HD. They're good tools for someone like me this isn't CONSTANTLY using them probably.

[–] SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ryobi (rightfully) earned a very bad reputation with their older tools. Their old (dark blue) tools are fucking garbage. But they did a rebrand about a decade ago, and the newer green ones are… Not horrible.

They’re not the best on the market, by any metric. But they’re not trying to be. For the average person who only needs a screw gun every week or two at most, they’re perfectly fine. A DeWalt would be overkill for that kind of customer.

If you’re working in construction or building hobby projects and consistently using them every single day, then yeah you’d want to invest in some nicer tools. But for light (or even medium) duty work, Ryobi is a perfectly valid choice. They’re comfortable to hold, have enough power to cut 3/4” plywood or drive a 3” screw, and don’t get bogged down by a ton of bells and whistles, (cough cough DeWalt’s Bluetooth connection in a fucking screw gun cough cough).

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[–] esc27@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I have an old Dewalt cordless drill that refuses to die and uses obsolete batteries that none of my other tools use. A corded Dewalt tablesaw. A kobalt powered screwdriver that I like so far, and a growing collection of Ryobi. An old skil branded circular saw and jig saw (corded.) They are all fine for regular household use and weekend projects.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Where is House Worx

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Turquoise all the way

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm a never-dad, but thanks to a generous gift from my SO's dad and proprietary battery systems, I'm now on team red.

[–] BeardedSingleMalt@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Or like me and you're not a brand-whore you're a "I'm too goddamn broke which one is the cheap"

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